NV drops rape charges against 4 dentists

[_subgenius]

Why am I not surprised Brietfart went looking for something like this to put on their front page while omitting details.. AGAIN.

The woman said she was raped by four guys while she was intoxicated.

It was dismissed because an entire team of high powered attorney's got video and successfully argued that the footage suggested the "sex was consensual."

where do you read that they were "high powered"...a google search seems to reveal them as typical.

Two key points Brietbart intentionally left out. They want this to appear as though some random, bored #metoo woman just made a crazy allegation based on nothing and almost got away with it while four white male victims almost suffered the consequences. In reality she probably woke up the next day hungover sore as all get out with memory flashes of several guys on top of her.

You criticize Breitbart for omitting details and then you feel good about just adding details that you imagine must be true because it maintains her as a poor feeble victim.
Let us try your method - "In reality she probably woke up and was embarrassed of her actions because she still had not resolved her puritanical upbringing with her modern urges for self-empowerment and realized there was video that would ruin her chances for election to her hometown PTA. Then she remembered that her original plan was to blackmail 4 dentists because she needed cash to replenish her losses from the craps table".
So she popped a mouthful of breath mints and called the cops.

Well the woman already said in her initial allegations that she was highly intoxicated. So if she were intoxicated enough, she couldn't have really consented to a sexual gangbang no matter what it looked like on film.

The let her prove she was legally intoxicated. Apparently the video reveals circumstances (as in more than one) that allowed trained legal experts with years of experience to come to a different conclusion that did you and your imagined details".
exculpatory video evidence that showed “extremely different” circumstances than what was initially reported to authorities.

And only one of the defendants attorneys said his client didn't have sex, suggesting the other three did. I wonder how many of these dentists were married.

Their marital status is irrelevant and does not mandate them being jailed...unless you are saying that adultery should be a felony??

...doesn't take "high power" attorneys, or arguments, to reveal blatant truths, but thanks for trying to make it look like this was just a case of poor feeble woman versus mysognists-who-had-high-power-attorneys-so-of-course-they-got-away-with-it-and-of-course-they-probably-support-Trump-and-they-hate-the-ACA.


A little fact to confuse you:
In Nevada, rape is defined as:
A person who subjects another person to sexual penetration, or who forces another person to make a sexual penetration on himself or herself or another, or on a beast, against the will of the victim or under conditions in which the perpetrator knows or should know that the victim is mentally or physically incapable of resisting or understanding the nature of his or her conduct, is guilty of sexual assault.

Like if she was passed-out drunk...or just passed out.

[_ajax18]

Two key points Brietbart intentionally left out. They want this to appear as though some random, bored #metoo woman just made a crazy allegation based on nothing and almost got away with it while four white male victims almost suffered the consequences. In reality she probably woke up the next day hungover sore as all get out with memory flashes of several guys on top of her.

What's your opinion on the Duke Rape Case Kevin? Was that just right wing propaganda too? What should have happened to Crystal Mangum in your opinion?

[_EAllusion]

At first, I read the article straightforwardly as Ajax intended to present it because clearly there are occasional instances of provably false rape allegations. The answer to that is simply that if she lied in sworn testimony, then she should be charged accordingly. And if she committed defamation, then she has civil exposure. Why isn't that enough? Seems appropriate to the offense. Acting as though the law doesn't have remedies for provably intentional false allegations of criminal conduct is ignorant or misleading, and if the argument is that current penalties are not enough, then go ahead and try to explain why.

Then having read Kevin's clarification and looking into it more, yeah, Brietbart is misleading about this story and Ajax's takeaway is wrong. You can't just quote the defense's statements as the final word on the case. This is not a case where you can establish what she said was intentionally false based on the reported facts. It's still plausible that she's a rape victim, in fact, depending on just how intoxicated she was and what isn't covered in the video. It's certainly plausible that she sincerely believed she was a rape victim. What we know is that she didn't have sufficient evidence in the eyes of prosecutors to move forward with the case. So what's Ajax saying here, then? A witness who doesn't get a conviction in a rape allegation should be subject to criminal penalties? When it's been pointed out to Ajax in the past that his mentality would prevent victims from coming forward about their rapes for fear of personal consequences, something that already is a problem as it is, his eyes just glaze over and he changes the subject.

[_Kevin Graham]

1. The dentists had multiple attorneys each, the point being they're obviously wealthy enough to afford much better representation.

2. I never said she was a poor feeble victim you asshat, I said she was intoxicated and this is true. The prosecutors never challenged that point.

3. "Extremely different circumstances" is a description provided only by the defendants' attorneys, and this can mean simply that she entered the room with all four men instead of just Badkoobehi. The video footage isn't going to record anything that happened inside the room obviously, only what happened in the hallway, elevator and lounge.

4. I never said their marital status was relevant to the charges dumbass. Their marital status would likely silence all Breitbart idiots in the article's comments section who keep referring to them as poor innocent victims. And this is why Breitbart omitted it. The hub for the poor victimized white christian males in this country.

5. I never said she was "passed out" and you don't have to be passed out drunk to be too drunk to know what you're doing or too drunk to remember details. Good God you're dumb. Anyone who has ever been drunk before knows you remember details differently the next day, and forget small things but not big things like getting screwed by multiple people.

6. She said she met Badkoobehi at a night club and he brought her back to his hotel room. They were kissing and started having sex when the other guys came in from another room and started taking turns. She said she resisted and they held her down as they took turns. No video footage can disprove that happened. All they likely did was point out inconsistencies in her description of what happened up until they entered the room, and then just assumed she lied about the rest. She reported the incident to hotel security. Evidence from the Hospital determined she was raped, so the men had no choice but to admit having sex with her.

So the fact remains. Brietbart deliberately omitted two key points and you haven't even addressed it. You're just going to give one of your favorite sources a pass and instead take issue with some guy on the internet pointing it out because, you know, identity politics. I'm not sure you even know how to take those big lips off of Trump's ass cheeks.

[_Some Schmo]

I wonder what ajax would say if his wife told him he she was raped.

What, are you trying to destroy this man's life?

[_Kevin Graham]

Meanwhile, Trump Says It’s A ‘Very Scary Time For Young Men In America’

But “women are doing great,” he said while fielding questions about sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh.

[_Kevin Graham]

Don't ruin that young white boy's future alert:

No prison time for Va. man convicted of tying up, sexually assaulting 14-year-old girl

[_ajax18]

It's certainly plausible that she sincerely believed she was a rape victim.

Why does it matter whether she believes she's a rape victim or not? She's either a rape victim or guilty of bearing false witness. We can always make ourselves believe things that are convenient.

[_EAllusion]

Why does it matter whether she believes she's a rape victim or not? She's either a rape victim or guilty of bearing false witness. We can always make ourselves believe things that are convenient.

1) Because if you punish people for reporting their sincere belief that a crime has happened, then people won't report their sincere belief that a crime has happened for fear of punishment. This will lead to a lot more crimes going unaddressed as victims and witnesses refuse to come forward, which is a serious harm to society.

2) It is not wrong to to report your sincere belief that a crime has happened unless you were willfully negligent in your formation of belief. That caveat is not something the legal system handles well and grey areas are best left outside the purview of criminal penalties. You should not punish people for morally acceptable behavior. It is the job of our system of justice to prevent sincere, but false charges from leading to convictions.

3) You stated that the woman "fabricated the charges." That does not appear to be something you can support. So now you've resorted to arguing that the charges are false and stating it doesn't matter whether she fabricated them or not. Then why emphasize she fabricated them in your initial post if you don't care whether she was lying or not?

[_DoubtingThomas]

1) Because if you punish people for reporting their sincere belief that a crime has happened, then people won't report their sincere belief that a crime has happened for fear of punishment. This will lead to a lot more crimes going unaddressed as victims and witnesses refuse to come forward, which is a serious harm to society.

I agree, some women do have a false memory or simply forget they consented.