Russia paid Taliban to kill Americans

[_Chap]

which guy? and for what exactly?
While the information thus far is concerning, i don't see how any one "guy" is culpable...but lemme guess, "orange man bad"
#tds

When Trump condemns Putin publicly and without reservation over this, maybe you can say there isn't a serious overlap between this and the singular relationship Trump has with Putin that places Trump's interests over those of national security or our allies.

Has Trump ever criticised Putin for anything significant?

And there has been quite a lot of Putin activity in the last few years that, shall we say, might be open to reasonable criticism by a US President ...

[_moksha]

When Trump condemns Putin publicly and without reservation over this, maybe you can say there isn't a serious overlap between this and the singular relationship Trump has with Putin that places Trump's interests over those of national security or our allies.

Do you think Trump will say anything when Russia can still be of major help to him with the 2020 election and help keep the golf courses afloat with money laundering?

[_Some Schmo]

With almost everything he does, says or tweets, it becomes ever more obvious that all he really cares about is his own, egomaniacal, narcissistic self. Though the number of his supporters who can't see that is slowly shrinking, it both amazes and disheartens me how many of them still remain.

Look, if they're the type of people who saw everything Trump was about before the election and thought, Yeah, this is my guy, then it can't be surprising some of them still support him. They were morons then, and nothing has changed. You've got to remember; to an idiot, everything people do seems impressive. When you're an idiot, a person merely has to assert their own greatness for you to think, Yeah, he said he's great, so he must be. Actually proving greatness? Not necessary. They're too stupid to notice anyway.

Trump fans are deplorable morons. If you're born without a brain, it's forever. That's all you really need to know.

[_Some Schmo]

I found this interesting, Gunnar:

Trump Voter: "Every day he breaks my heart as an American in a new way"

I have a friend who also fits into this camp. They voted for Trump because Hillary is the devil, Trump was an outsider and had a reputation for being a successful businessman (clearly undeserved, but it was there). I mean, if I suspend everything I knew about Trump at the time and just bought into the copy written about him by people purported to admire him, I can almost imagine being excited to vote for him. He wasn't a career politician. He wasn't an insider. He wasn't beholden to American moneyed interests (although now we find out that would have been preferable to his Russian financiers). And he wasn't Clinton. I can almost imagine it, if I, like I said, squinted enough to ignore everything else I knew about him.

But here's where I give these people credit. At least, they watched his performance as President, and rather than acting like blind, idiot fanboys, they said, Holy sh-it, this guy's a total fuc-kup.

So yeah, I'm careful to draw a pretty massive distinction between a current Trump supporter and someone who voted for Trump in 2016. Some of them came to their senses.

[_Gunnar]

So yeah, I'm careful to draw a pretty massive distinction between a current Trump supporter and someone who voted for Trump in 2016. Some of them came to their senses.

Yes, I agree that that is a valid distinction. I realize, as you do, that there is a stubborn, ignorant and racist core who will continue to blindly support Trump, no matter what he does or says. But there are signs that a few (way too few) who are beginning to see what a colossal mistake it was to vote for him. I continue to hope that it will be just enough to overcome Republicans' attempt at voter suppression and outright cheating to get that selfish, colossally ignorant man-child out of office. The most stubborn part of his core believers are those who would much rather remain abjectly foolish than change their minds and thereby admit to having been fools.

[_Some Schmo]

The most stubborn part of his core believers are those who would much rather remain abjectly foolish than change their minds and thereby admit to having been fools.

I definitely agree there's a lot of that, but I also think there's a decent segment of his base that simply loves that he makes so many people angry, probably because their own lives suck so much. Misery loves company.

There's another thing I was thinking about this morning: when in the history of this country has the idiot demographic had such comprehensive representation? Someone is finally speaking out for the morons, letting us in on the moron mindset. That's got to feel good for them.

[_Chap]

There's another thing I was thinking about this morning: when in the history of this country has the idiot demographic had such comprehensive representation? Someone is finally speaking out for the morons, letting us in on the moron mindset. That's got to feel good for them.

As a great man once wrote, with amazing insight and prescience:

[_Jersey Girl]

subhuman...no need to bother yourself replying to my posts. You and Smokey are the only 2 posters on my ignore list. Why? Because your posts amount to worthless anti-intellectual scribbling. While others may find you amusing, none of them are me.

[_canpakes]

(Dr. Shades here, using our "Temp. Admin." account.)

I don't doubt the damning-ness of the evidence, but I can't figure out why Russian Intelligence would offer bounties to Taliban fighters to kill Coalition troops. Isn't killing coalition troops sort of what the Taliban does anyway?

It'd be like me paying a homeless person to panhandle.

If you paid a homeless person to panhandle, I guarantee you that they’d panhandle more vigorously.

[_Gunnar]

There's another thing I was thinking about this morning: when in the history of this country has the idiot demographic had such comprehensive representation? Someone is finally speaking out for the morons, letting us in on the moron mindset. That's got to feel good for them.

Yeah, much like flat earthers would feel elated and validated upon finding out that the moron they voted for turned out to be a fellow flat earther -- a possibility I still don't think we can absolutely rule out, given his often demonstrated scientific ignorance and lack of curiosity about how the world really works. Though I would not be greatly astounded to find out that he were a closet flat earther, I realize it is not a high probability that he actually is. But even if he were, he probably has just enough political savvy to realize that he would be ridiculed out of office in November, if the general voting public found out about it -- even if a majority of his current base shared that conviction, which is itself unlikely -- even for them.