Do some FLDS girls go to public school?

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KevinSim wrote:
Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:42 pm
Everybody Wang Chung, this was my favorite between your two stories. But I'm curious why Emily and Sarah didn't get married, like Jack and Sarah got married in the other story. That's legal in Utah now.
You’re asking me why the AI wrote the story that way?
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Everybody Wang Chung,

Would you ask AI to explain to KS why Everybody Wang Chung cannot explain why Emily and Sarah didn't get married?

This will be fun.

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Can you explain why Emily and Sarah didn't get married in your prior short story about an FLDS teenage girl?

My primary function is to generate human-like text based on the input that I receive. I don't have personal preferences or biases. Instead, I use the patterns and structures of language that I have been trained on to generate text that is coherent and appropriate for the given context.
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KevinSim wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:51 pm
I'm thinking of writing a short story that has as a character an FLDS teenage girl.
Make it about a 19th century LDS teenage girl who time traveled to the future.
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In the style of Tennis Shoes Among The Nephites, write a short story about a 19th century LDS teenage girl who time traveled to the future and marries.
It was a beautiful day in the year 1820, and Mary Jane was out picking apples in her family's orchard when she suddenly felt a strange sensation wash over her. The world around her seemed to swirl and blur, and before she knew it, she found herself standing in the midst of a bustling city street.

Dazed and confused, Mary Jane looked around, taking in the strange sights and sounds of the unfamiliar place. She soon realized that she had somehow been transported through time to the future.

As she tried to make sense of what had happened, Mary Jane was approached by a kind-looking man who introduced himself as John. John explained that he was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and he offered to help Mary Jane navigate the strange new world she found herself in.

Over time, Mary Jane came to understand the teachings of the LDS Church and was eventually baptized. She and John grew close, and eventually they were married in a beautiful temple ceremony.

As Mary Jane adjusted to life in the future, she couldn't help but marvel at the wonders of the world around her. Though she missed her family and the simple life of the 19th century, she knew that she had been given a special opportunity to be a part of something greater. And with John by her side, she felt ready to face whatever challenges lay ahead.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:04 am
Can you explain why Emily and Sarah didn't get married in your prior short story about an FLDS teenage girl?
My primary function is to generate human-like text based on the input that I receive. I don't have personal preferences or biases. Instead, I use the patterns and structures of language that I have been trained on to generate text that is coherent and appropriate for the given context.
Hey AI, who trained you? Maybe that's the person who thought it would be appropriate for Jack and Sarah to marry but not Emily and Sarah. Or maybe it's just an innocent coincidence.
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KevinSim wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:54 am
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:04 am
Can you explain why Emily and Sarah didn't get married in your prior short story about an FLDS teenage girl?
Hey AI, who trained you? Maybe that's the person who thought it would be appropriate for Jack and Sarah to marry but not Emily and Sarah. Or maybe it's just an innocent coincidence.
Perhaps these are good ideas for questions to put to a computer engineering student.

IANACES, but I suspect that an AI is unlikely to have a someone who trained them to the point that a single person's ideas of appropriateness of specific cases of marriage would be detectable. Further, I suspect that an AI would best be trained by exposing it to material written from widely divergent points of view, and that it might arbitrarily choose one PoV for one story and another PoV for another story.

In any case, the AI is being asked to write in a particular style, so perhaps the effect of the requested style might modify or even extinguish the effects of any bias in training.

It may be the case that your questions are almost 100% unanswerable, because of the effort involved in trying to untangle the various influences on the final product.
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KevinSim wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:54 am
Hey AI, who trained you? Maybe that's the person who thought it would be appropriate for Jack and Sarah to marry but not Emily and Sarah. Or maybe it's just an innocent coincidence.
Coincidence? Huh?
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KevinSim wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:51 pm
I'm thinking of writing a short story that has as a character an FLDS teenage girl. I'd like my protagonist to meet her at school, but I read on the Internet that the FLDS Church took all their girls out of public school, and either had them home schooled or set up an FLDS school for them. I'm wondering, for FLDS who live some distance away from the center of the FLDS population, is there a chance they might let their daughters go to a public school, or am I going to have to change my short story, and have them meet somewhere other than school?
Here, free of charge, is your "Easy" button:
  • When you write fiction you, of necessity, incorporate non-factual ideas in your story.
  • Of all of the things that you might choose to fictionalize, why pick this one out as requiring to be kept factually correct?
  • Allow also for the likelihood that FLDS members are not monolithic, and imagine a world in which one member allows one of his daughters to attend public school.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:56 pm
Write a short story that has as a character an FLDS teenage girl. I'd like my protagonist to meet her at FIZZ and fall in love, run away and get married and join the FLDS church.
As the sun began to set on a hot summer evening, nineteen-year-old Jack walked into the crowded soda shop known as FIZZ, looking for a cool drink to quench his thirst. He had always loved coming to the popular hangout, and this evening was no different.

As he made his way to the counter, he couldn't help but notice a group of girls huddled together, whispering and casting glances in his direction. Jack had always been something of a ladies' man, but he had never quite understood why these girls seemed so interested in him. He shrugged it off and continued on his way.

As he approached the counter, he saw a new girl standing off to the side, looking lost and out of place. Jack had never seen her before, and he couldn't help but wonder where she had come from.

As he got closer, he realized that the girl was wearing a long, plain dress and had her hair pulled back in a severe bun. Jack suddenly remembered hearing about a group of people called the FLDS who lived in a nearby town. They were a religious sect that followed strict rules about dress and behavior, and Jack had always been curious about their way of life.

As Jack approached the new girl, he couldn't help but feel a sense of curiosity and compassion. He introduced himself and offered to buy her a drink. The girl, whose name was Sarah, gratefully accepted the offer and the two of them quickly began chatting.

Over the course of the evening, Jack learned more about Sarah's life and the strict rules she had to follow as a member of the FLDS. He also learned about the close-knit community that Sarah was a part of, and the strong bonds of love and loyalty that kept them together.

As Jack got to know Sarah better, he began to see the world in a different light. He had always taken his freedom and choices for granted, but now he began to appreciate the value of living a life guided by strong principles and values.

But as much as Jack admired Sarah's strength and conviction, he couldn't help but feel a growing attraction to her. He had never felt this way about anyone before, and he knew that his feelings were forbidden. Sarah was a member of the FLDS, and their relationship would be seen as taboo by both their communities.

Despite the obstacles in their way, Jack and Sarah couldn't deny their feelings for each other. As the night wore on, they made the impulsive decision to run away and start a new life together. They got married in a small ceremony at the courthouse, vowing to love and support each other no matter what.

As they looked into each other's eyes, Jack and Sarah knew that they had made the right decision. They were in love, and nothing else mattered. Together, they would join the FLDS church and face whatever challenges came their way, determined to build a life filled with love and happiness.
Sounds like the makings of a Lifetime movie.
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