More Violent Insurrection to Come

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/milit ... uguration/

Looks like that plan was hatched prior to Dec. 23d.

The website the mmm post came from is offline right now for maintenance.

After what just happened, I highly, highly doubt that extremists are going to try anything on the 20th. The 3% website as of a couple days ago just said that their only recourse now is to try to get people like themselves into local government across the US.

it's easy for Trump to signal and have deniability. But those with the prospect of doing a round 2, can see their peers getting arrested and know very well that because of the security failure last time, the security this time will be impenetrable.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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subgenius wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:22 pm
A brief study of history reveals that what Pelosi and Democrats are currently doing is tantamount to the Reichstag Fire Decree.
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"The decree nullified many of the key civil liberties of German citizens. With Nazis in powerful positions in the German government, the decree was used as the legal basis for the imprisonment of anyone considered to be opponents of the Nazis, and to suppress publications not considered "friendly" to the Nazi cause. The decree is considered by historians as one of the key steps in the establishment of a one-party Nazi state in Germany."
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Pelosi is in full frantic mode (as if her leptop is missing), more so than can be explained by her alcoholism.
Did you think up this BS comparison all by yourself?
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subgenius wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:22 pm
A brief study of history reveals that what Pelosi and Democrats are currently doing is tantamount to the Reichstag Fire Decree.
...
"The decree nullified many of the key civil liberties of German citizens. With Nazis in powerful positions in the German government, the decree was used as the legal basis for the imprisonment of anyone considered to be opponents of the Nazis, and to suppress publications not considered "friendly" to the Nazi cause. The decree is considered by historians as one of the key steps in the establishment of a one-party Nazi state in Germany."
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Pelosi is in full frantic mode (as if her leptop is missing), more so than can be explained by her alcoholism.
Good luck with that subs. If it were up to me, anybody who pushed the election fraud lies would do 1 month in jail. Including people on message boards.

I fully support the present censorship. But do continue with your fallacious reasoning that a --> b = b ---> a.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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When it was black people doing it Trump tweeted that any damage to federal buildings should come with a 10 year sentence minimum.

And the laptop taken from the conference room has nothing of value on it. It was only used for presentations, hence the reason it is left in the conference room.
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It should be noted as to why neoconsevatives probably believe an Executive authority can just take unilateral power or make unilateral decisions. From wiki:
Some have argued that neoconservativism has been influenced by [the Nazi Carl] Schmitt.[52] Most notably the legal opinions offered by Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo et al. by invoking the unitary executive theory to justify highly controversial policies in the war on terror—such as introducing unlawful combatant status which purportedly would eliminate protection by the Geneva Conventions,[53] torture, NSA electronic surveillance program—mimic his writings.[52] Professor David Luban said in 2011 that "[a] Lexis search reveals five law review references to Schmitt between 1980 and 1990; 114 between 1990 and 2000; and 420 since 2000, with almost twice as many in the last five years as the previous five".
When we talk about slippery slopes and their effects you don’t really have to look further from whom the Conservatives are taking their governing theory from. I’m starting to think the Leftists and ANTIFA are onto something...

edit: The irony of the right-wing projecting their fascism onto others cannot be overstated.

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Icarus wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:45 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:36 pm


I believe this is true only if the Senate convicts first. That requires 2/3.
The Senate makes their own rules don't they?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN29D2QG
Yes, but I think the Constitution itself requires a conviction first.
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
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Nancy Pelosi has issued a decree suspending parts of the Constitution? Sub, could you, uh, link to the Pelosi decree? Hints: impeachment is a right expressly given to the House in Article I, and calling on Republicans who tried to steal an election to resign is protected speech under the 1st amendment.
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It would be in the Republicans best interest to remove him and disqualify him. That way he has no more power over them.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:36 pm
I believe this is true only if the Senate convicts first. That requires 2/3.
Trump could commit his hypothetical murder and threaten to launch nuclear missiles the next day and Senate Republicans (except for Romney) would still not vote against him. He and his worshippers are like time bombs.
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