The Light of Christ

[_thews]

What does Jesus Christ have to do with racist Mormon doctrine?

nothing

I agree. What was your point?

[_Tobin]

Tobin, I am probably not the person to persue your view with for a Mormon context. I have long been Protestant and view the light of Christ as prophetic inspiration to a broad base of believers not special authorities . I think that broad base gives openings to change past mistakes.

That is an interesting response, but it makes me wonder why you'd be interested in posting to a forum on Mormonism if you weren't interested in a Mormon's perspective on things? My answer was trying to help you see that it wasn't out of fear of losing their authority that the leaders of the LDS Church don't address the issue we were discussing. I don't think if they answered thoughtfully and truthfully that there would be any change in that at all. No, the reason I suspect they don't answer the question is because of incompetence and stupidity.

Also, I do agree with you about the light of Christ. It inspires all men and our best hopes, aspirations, and desires arise from it.

[_lulu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXz0xfiKM0

Now that's some Light o'Christ.

[_huckelberry]

I agree. What was your point?

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Thews, sorry if I gave the impression that I was argueing with you. The only piece of gdemetz comment that I agree with is the view that Jesus was not a racist. I am unsure why he thinks that. I think Jesus was not a racist because he treated all people with respect and sent his gospel to all people in the world. His gospel had no exceptions no requiring only partial access for selected lineages of people riding in the back of the bus.

I was a Mormon back when every body had to pretend the ban made perfectly good sense. Pretend pretend pretend pretend, you could not actually speak disagreement. You could not say it was wrong. People who were not happy with it smiled and tried to forget about it.

[_huckelberry]

Tobin, I am probably not the person to persue your view with for a Mormon context. I have long been Protestant and view the light of Christ as prophetic inspiration to a broad base of believers not special authorities . I think that broad base gives openings to change past mistakes.

That is an interesting response, but it makes me wonder why you'd be interested in posting to a forum on Mormonism if you weren't interested in a Mormon's perspective on things? My answer was trying to help you see that it wasn't out of fear of losing their authority that the leaders of the LDS Church don't address the issue we were discussing. I don't think if they answered thoughtfully and truthfully that there would be any change in that at all. No, the reason I suspect they don't answer the question is because of incompetence and stupidity.

Also, I do agree with you about the light of Christ. It inspires all men and our best hopes, aspirations, and desires arise from it.

Tobin, I am not disinclined to talk Mormonism and mean no disinclination to regard your thoughts However it sounds to my ears that your position is enough outside of Mormon central that I am wondering why you would wish to remain tied to a group so centered on an authority which you do not respect.

[_Tarski]

First of all, let me state that the reasons that I am writing this are twofold. The first is to show the beauty of non-man made, revealed religion, and the second is to try and dispel the myths associated with the athansian creed. The omnipresent entity in the universe is not any of the Godhead, but the light of Christ which is imminently connected to the Godhead. The vast "seas" of intelligences in the matter throughout the universe make up what is termed the light of Christ. As D&C 88 states, it is in all things, and it is, in fact, the power of God itself. Satan coveted this power, which was God's honor (see D&C 29) given by all these intelligences which sustain and support Him, not by force, but by their free will. This is how miracles are performed by natural law. These intelligences in the matter will obey God and move mountains at His command.This is the power Satan coveted. Furthermore, all those who "have been cleansed from sin every whit," as the Book of Mormon states, and have the priesthood authority from God, can also be delegated this power. THe Book of Mormon also states truly that if God were not just then He would cease to be God. Why? Because all these intelligences which make up the light of Christ would no longer support an unjust God, and His power would dissolve. Of course, I am confident that will never happen! Now I would like to ask a question. What man made religion could come up with such glorious truths?!?

It is just nonsense.

[_Tobin]

Tobin, I am not disinclined to talk Mormonism and mean no disinclination to regard your thoughts However it sounds to my ears that your position is enough outside of Mormon central that I am wondering why you would wish to remain tied to a group so centered on an authority which you do not respect.

Oh, I do not disagree that I'm outside the leadership cult that infects current Mormonism and feel no particular affinity to doing anything they command. I do believe the principles upon which Mormonism is founded are sound however. And I believe Mormons would have a lot fewer problems with other Christian sects if they stopped teaching a laundry list of idiotic and false doctrines like men can be God. As for myself, I am interested in all religions, not just Mormonism, and choose to view myself as someone with a Mormon background (I was an ex-Mormon/atheist at one time before I saw God) trying to come to terms with understanding God.

[_DrW]

Tobin, I am not disinclined to talk Mormonism and mean no disinclination to regard your thoughts However it sounds to my ears that your position is enough outside of Mormon central that I am wondering why you would wish to remain tied to a group so centered on an authority which you do not respect.

Oh, I do not disagree that I'm outside the leadership cult that infects current Mormonism and feel no particular affinity to doing anything they command. I do believe the principles upon which Mormonism is founded are sound however. And I believe Mormons would have a lot fewer problems with other Christian sects if they stopped teaching a laundry list of idiotic and false doctrines like men can be God. As for myself, I am interested in all religions, not just Mormonism, and choose to view myself as someone with a Mormon background (I was an ex-Mormon/atheist at one time before I saw God) trying to come to terms with understanding God.

Wait a minute, Tobin.

You claim to have seen God?
)
Really?

[_gdemetz]

Tarski, it is what the prophets have taught. Do you have a better explanation of the omnipresence of God? If you do, share it with us, by all means!

[_Chap]

... (I was an ex-Mormon/atheist at one time before I saw God) trying to come to terms with understanding God.

Wait a minute, Tobin.

You claim to have seen God?
)
Really?

Tobin saying he talked to 'God' was the thirteenth strike of the clock, which not only is doubted in itself, but casts into doubt all that preceded it. Now he has seen 'God' too. This fourteenth 'bong' adds to the impression already given by its predecessor.