The disintegration of American democracy thread

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Wow, subgenius triggered (also, at least I have hair you [personal information deleted])? Color me shocked. That said, how many of his celebs were running for Congress and were talking to their constituents?

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Just for fun, I looked up the old thread about the Kathy Griffin thing.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46221&hilit=kathy+griffin

The liberals of this site that commented almost universally condemned what she did and nobody was shallow or triggered enough to try to "whatabout" her tasteless stunt. On top of that, didn't the "librul elites" in hollywood fire her and essentially blacklist her from working (cnn fired her, tour venues cancelled her shows, politicians returned her money, etc.)? I swear, sid the subfaps is losing what few brain cells he has as fast as he is [personal information deleted]...

That said, of course our resident, barely coherent assclown, sid the subfaps immediately comes along to try to "whatabout" a racists alt-right politicians efforts to encourage racial violence against another politician. Im guessing his constituents (and bigots like subfaps) like him even more for vomiting out racist calls to violence against people they don't agree with. Just look at the orange shit-stain they worship and his conspiracy addled calls for violence against people that don't blindly fawn over his insecure fat ass. It would seem hypocrisy is a staple of blindly obedient (Mormon) trumpsters.
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Chair of the Republican Party - All Democrats must die. It's time to do your part. Paint the streets red with blood. Helter Skelter!

Subgenius - Oh yeah? What about that time a c-list actor said that Republicans must be beat? It's Ok when they do it, right?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Wow, subgenius triggered ....

If proving your claim of "weird" as being actually normal and bipartisan behavior is "triggered" then you are not that informed on contemporary slang.
But hey, keep those fires burning
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schreech wrote:I launch products every quarter from airport lounges overseas, Im important and you will love me...now watch me spittle!!!.
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Re: The disintegration of American democracy thread

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subgenius wrote:Image


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Jeez, I wasn't even talking to you, you poor, insecure, barely incoherent lemming...Its ok, I don't mind that you need to project your failures on me - you seem to really need to focus on the fact that I travel for a living. don't worry big guy, maybe one day you will find your way out of the shite holler you are stuck in...

That said, this doesn't change the fact that you are mindless hypocrite who has nothing to add beyond "whatabout!?!?".
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George Washington agreed, saying in his farewell presidential speech (emphasis Trump):

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

There is an opinion, that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the Government, and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in Governments of a Monarchical cast, Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And, there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.


The original hair fire. :rolleyes:

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CNN ran a piece recently arguing that the founding fathers intended impeachment to be bipartisan. It may have caused history teachers throughout the country to spontaneously combust. Alexander Hamilton is the principal ghostwriter of that farewell address. He totes seems obsssesed with bipartisanship there, eh?
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I have said this before, but I think the original fault of the constitution outside of slavery comprises is failure to appreciate how political parties work. People like Madison and Hamilton were prescient about risks, but they totally misunderstood the development of party politics. Because of this, important aspects of our government framework don’t work like intended. The framers just gave feeble warnings to stay away from factionalism rather than building institutions best equipped to deal with their inevitability. These warnings are rich coming from Hamilton as he ended up a major player in partisan gamesmanship.

Every Presidential democracy either is relatively young or has collapsed. The US is the lone exception. What Washington’s address is warning about there is a major reason why.
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Man, it just hit me. We need lessons in civics starting in Kindergarten all the way through grade 12. Half the people that post on this forum lack any sort of basic understanding about our government, how it operates, why it operates like it does, and why it's important to protect it from tyranny.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Man, it just hit me. We need lessons in civics starting in Kindergarten all the way through grade 12. Half the people that post on this forum lack any sort of basic understanding about our government, how it operates, why it operates like it does, and why it's important to protect it from tyranny.

- Doc



http://ecs.force.com/mbdata/mbstcprofan ... ST&st=Utah

State standards include civics or citizenship education Utah’s Core Standards for Social Studies (grade-level standards for K-6, course-specific standards for 7-12) includes a strand of standards for Citizenship in grades K-2. Civics content is embedded in the social studies content in later primary grades and is also embedded in the “United States Government and Citizenship” high school course. The goal of the United States Government and Citizenship course is to “foster informed, responsible participation in public life. Knowing how to be a good citizen is essential to the preservation and improvement of United States democracy. Upon completion of this course the student will understand the major ideas, protections, privileges, structures, and economic systems that affect the life of a citizen in the United States political system. This course is recommended for seniors due to their proximity to voting age.”
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