Mass deportations of undocumented immigrants

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This is exactly what you voted for
Last week, several news outlets, including The New York Times, published stories about the outrage among townspeople over the detaining and planned deportation of a town soccer mom. Carol Mayorga, who is originally from Hong Kong, was surprisingly detained by ICE, in their brown shirts, during a routine check-in where she hoped to renew her work authorization, which expires in January 2026.

She was subsequently shackled and handcuffed, stuffed in a van and then carted all over Missouri, bouncing from jail to jail and awaiting an apparent deportation to Hong Kong.

Mayorga’s three children – 14, 12 and 7 – were essentially abandoned without warning, and they mostly have no idea where she is and when she’ll be able to make a brief phone call to them. They have cried. They have begged. They have screamed. But mostly, they’ve been terrified by the upending of their very normal, very American lives.

The good people of Kennett, where Trump won an overwhelming majority of the vote last November, are outraged. They loved Mayorga, who worked at a local diner and was a fixture in the community. They can’t believe what’s happened. And they keep telling everyone that this “is not what we voted for.”

And that’s all touching and swell, except for one small thing.

This. Is. Exactly. What. You. Voted. For.

This callousness. This indifference. This cruelty. You voted for it. You voted for it to be inflicted upon millions of people all around this country. Good people. Decent people. Community-minded people. People who make this country great.
This is my feeling too. If you didn't vote for Harris, you asked for this. And if you claim you didn't know it would happen, you don't deserve a vote because you're way too ignorant. If you did know it would happen, you're an unapologetic asshole.

I have no sympathy for Trump voters who want us to believe "this isn't what we voted for." Screw you. You did too, you ignorant assholes.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 6:34 pm
MAGA and real Christianity don't overlap in any way.
You're right! This can't be overemphasized! If there really were any connection between MAGA and Christianity, that would be excellent justification for abandoning Christianity altogether!

As I have said before, we need more Christians like Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde and James Talarico.
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Gunnar wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 6:36 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 6:34 pm
MAGA and real Christianity don't overlap in any way.
You're right! This can't be overemphasized! If there really were any connection between MAGA and Christianity, that would be excellent justification for abandoning Christianity altogether!
MAGA Christianity is performative only. It has the spirituality of a clump of dirt. These are the exact people I'm talking about who think being a Christian gives them automatic credibility without them having to act in a way "pleasing to Jesus."

Sen. Joni Ernst, when told people will die with the cuts to Medicaid passed by the house, said, "Well everybody dies." After the uproar, she issued a fake, sarcastic apology and recommended people come to Jesus if they want everlasting life (how many people did she turn off religion right there?) If Jesus were real, I bet he'd have much to say about Ernst's lack of compassion. Another prime example of MAGA "Christianity."

Republicans are gross and disgusting.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:56 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 6:36 pm
You're right! This can't be overemphasized! If there really were any connection between MAGA and Christianity, that would be excellent justification for abandoning Christianity altogether!
MAGA Christianity is performative only. It has the spirituality of a clump of dirt. These are the exact people I'm talking about who think being a Christian gives them automatic credibility without them having to act in a way "pleasing to Jesus."

Sen. Joni Ernst, when told people will die with the cuts to Medicaid passed by the house, said, "Well everybody dies." After the uproar, she issued a fake, sarcastic apology and recommended people come to Jesus if they want everlasting life (how many people did she turn off religion right there?) If Jesus were real, I bet he'd have much to say about Ernst's lack of compassion. Another prime example of MAGA "Christianity."

Republicans are gross and disgusting.
It sometimes seems almost like the MAGA types think that having or treating with compassion for others who are less fortunate than or not like themselves is some kind of wicked communist plot.
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I've always wondered why the guy chose to hide in front of the clothes rather than behind them.
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Well, our President has decided that sending 2000 National Guard troops to California will be today’s red meat to titillate the MAGA crowd.
US President Donald Trump has said earlier that protests that stop immigration laws being enforced "constitute a form of rebellion" against the US government.

Under Title 10 of the US Code, presidents can federalise the National Guard - meaning to order the state-based troops to active duty - when there is "a rebellion or danger of a rebellion" against government authority. Trump has used this power to send 2,000 National Guard members to Los Angeles.

In a statement from the White House, Trump said National Guard members would "temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal actions".

The statement also says they will be deployed for 60 days, with the final decision resting with the US secretary of defence.
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ICE is ferreting out the dangerous hordes of murderous foreign gang members at their secret headquarters disguised as … donut shops.
Angelica Salas, director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA), said at a news conference Friday that there were seven raids throughout the Los Angeles area, including at two Home Depots, a doughnut shop and a clothing wholesaler. She said her organization confirmed that more than 45 people were detained in the operations, which she described as “random sweeps.” The Post could not independently confirm the nature of the raids.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:45 am
ICE is ferreting out the dangerous hordes of murderous foreign gang members at their secret headquarters disguised as … donut shops.
Angelica Salas, director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA), said at a news conference Friday that there were seven raids throughout the Los Angeles area, including at two Home Depots, a doughnut shop and a clothing wholesaler. She said her organization confirmed that more than 45 people were detained in the operations, which she described as “random sweeps.” The Post could not independently confirm the nature of the raids.
And even documented immigrants are not safe!

Trump Voter Gets Choked Up After ICE Detains a Third of His Staff

Vincent Scardina supported Donald Trump’s tough stance on immigration at the ballot box. But that decision came back to bite the roofing boss when ICE detained a third of his workforce.

The six men, all from Nicaragua, were pulled over in a work truck on May 27 while heading to a job—and carted off to jail.

According to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office, deputies helped transport the men to a local detention facility “for deportation.”

Scardina, who runs a small roofing business in Florida’s Lower Keys, cannot believe it. “It’s quite a shock. You get to know these guys, you become their friends—not just an employer but a friend,” he told NBC6, visibly emotional.

Adding to Scardina’s annoyance, the men had valid work permits and pending asylum applications, according to their attorney Regilucia Smith. “They are legally here,” she said. “Valid work permit, not even close to expired… again, no criminal records—not here, not in Nicaragua.”

ICE’s nationwide raids came after White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller was reported by the Wall Street Journal to have told immigration officials in May to target anyone in the country illegally.

A swoop on a Home Depot last Friday in a predominantly Latino neighborhood of Los Angeles sparked widespread anti-ICE demonstrations and outbursts of rioting in the city, prompting President Donald Trump to commandeer the National Guard and deploy Marines against the wishes of local leaders.

Scardina says he voted for Trump and still supports many of the former president’s policies, but this isn’t what he signed up for. “Buyer’s remorse? I don’t know, a little bit.”

The detained men represented a third of his total staff—devastating in a small labor pool like Key West. “We’re not able...to just replace people as easily as, say, a big city, [with] very limited people to pull from, and then you would have to train them, and that takes sometimes years,” he said.

Even more jarring, three of the workers have now been transferred to detention centers in Texas and California. The rest remain in local custody, as their lawyer fights to have them released.

Scardina isn’t alone. He says other contractors in the area are being hit hard too. “I know of one landscaper that lost nine or 10 of his whole crew he had and he’s just totally out of business all of a sudden, just like that.”

Still, his colleague, Virgil Scardina, says they count themselves lucky. “I get to go home and hug my kid,” he said. “These guys don’t. And they don’t deserve that.”

ICE did not immediately respond to comment from the Daily Beast.
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The number one problem with the situation we are in is without a doubt abject ignorance, particularly, the inability to connect political leaders with reality as it unfolds on the ground. Generally, during times of relative peace and in a democracy, there isn't much that changes day-to-day that a person would attribute to their leaders except in the capacity of theater.
“It’s quite a shock. You get to know these guys, you become their friends—not just an employer but a friend,” he told NBC6, visibly emotional.

Adding to Scardina’s annoyance, the men had valid work permits and pending asylum applications,

“Buyer’s remorse? I don’t know, a little bit.”
This Scardina person must be the biggest idiot to ever walk the earth. Just a little bit? I'm sure there was a nice German family in the 30's shocked to find out their Jewish neighbors were arrested and were "a little bit surprised" because, hey, it was their neighbors and they were nice people, the good ones not the bad ones!

Scardina is like the single parent who leaves their five-year-old at home while they go to the club, when they return to find the child unconscious, still has trouble making a connection between their decision and the consequence. Jail might fix that a little. However, unlike drunk driving and leaving a child home alone while forgetting to even lock the doors or turn off the stove, voting for an authoritarian leader -- the equivalent lapse in judgement and moral behavior -- is not illegal. Unfortunately, we may need our evil leaders (who are supported by evil people, some of whom post on this board), to do far more damage than has been done before the message gets across to those who still have some goodness and wisdom within them that they can make the connection and course correct for the next round of elections.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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