No you didn’t answer it. If we’re the same species why wouldn’t everyone eventually grow up to be a god?MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2026 11:32 pmI've answered that. We've mentioned King Follett. Let's now mention Kingdoms of Glory. For all those that are children of God and have not committed the unpardonable sin.
Rejecting God in the light of day having known Him.
Limnor, does Jesus have a body?
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Yes, I believe Jesus is God incarnate and that He rose with a glorified body. But I see that embodiment as part of the incarnation—God entering human life—rather than evidence that God must eternally be a bodily being in order to relate to us. I agree with the classical understanding of the trinity.
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So He has a body. He is God.Limnor wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2026 11:35 pmYes, I believe Jesus is God incarnate and that He rose with a glorified body. But I see that embodiment as part of the incarnation—God entering human life—rather than evidence that God must eternally be a bodily being in order to relate to us. I agree with the classical understanding of the trinity.
Are you trying to make it more complicated/convoluted?
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Naw I’m just skipping ahead because I don’t believe your questions are sincere.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2026 11:43 pmSo He has a body. He is God.Limnor wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2026 11:35 pmYes, I believe Jesus is God incarnate and that He rose with a glorified body. But I see that embodiment as part of the incarnation—God entering human life—rather than evidence that God must eternally be a bodily being in order to relate to us. I agree with the classical understanding of the trinity.
Are you trying to make it more complicated/convoluted?
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You never answered about species.
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I am sincere. And I did answer the question about species. I suppose you can leave it at that if you want to.
Honestly, I'm a bit flummoxed as to why you are so entrenched in creedal Christianity knowing that it resulted in so many branches/offshoots. Why are to so committed to that?
Joseph Smith saw that 'problem' before anything else. It was one of his primary concerns besides getting right with God.
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And you truly think this makes sense? Body and no body? What am I not understanding? Methinks you do have to go all out convoluted to get where you're going.Limnor wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2026 11:35 pmYes, I believe Jesus is God incarnate and that He rose with a glorified body. But I see that embodiment as part of the incarnation—God entering human life—rather than evidence that God must eternally be a bodily being in order to relate to us. I agree with the classical understanding of the trinity.
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I don’t believe you.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2026 12:30 amI am sincere. And I did answer the question about species. I suppose you can leave it at that if you want to.
Honestly, I'm a bit flummoxed as to why you are so entrenched in creedal Christianity knowing that it resulted in so many branches/offshoots. Why are to so committed to that?
You didn’t answer the question about species. What happens to children who don’t become gods? Do they change species?
Which offshoot of Mormonism is the correct one?
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I do. I don’t know what you aren’t understanding and I don’t believe you want to understand because I believe you just want to wield your misunderstanding as a tool.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2026 12:33 amAnd you truly think this makes sense? Body and no body? What am I not understanding? Methinks you do have to go all out convoluted to get where you're going.Limnor wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2026 11:35 pmYes, I believe Jesus is God incarnate and that He rose with a glorified body. But I see that embodiment as part of the incarnation—God entering human life—rather than evidence that God must eternally be a bodily being in order to relate to us. I agree with the classical understanding of the trinity.
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MG,
Don't think I missed this barb you threw at me:
I could take my rock, dog, and potato trinity, come up with some basic ideas, then feed it to AI to generate a 10,000 page mythology epic that will likely make these three beings relatable to a good number of readers. My point is that God must be relatable to be God, if God isn't relatable, then we'd think of him as a villain or a natural force. However, there are endless possibilities for imagining how a God might really be. It's not possible to do a comparison based on thought exercises. This is where the Bible comes in. I see the Bible, in my anthropological theology, as revealed reality. Perhaps like a science experiment. This puts Mormons and Christians at a common starting point. From here, it's how do Jehovah, Jesus, the Father, and the HG get interpreted.
Don't think I missed this barb you threw at me:
Just stating it for the record.That's all that matters.
However, for some I suppose, that's the beauty of it all. Ever learning but never coming to a knowledge of the truth.
MG, I'm pretty sure that Vikings related to the God's of Norse mythology better than they'd relate to Joseph Smith 19th century King Follet speech. Don't be so desperate to make the Mormon God universally more relatable to every human being who has ever lived.MG wrote:Zeus and Thor were 'god born'. There's a difference, isn't there in your comparison/analogy?
I could take my rock, dog, and potato trinity, come up with some basic ideas, then feed it to AI to generate a 10,000 page mythology epic that will likely make these three beings relatable to a good number of readers. My point is that God must be relatable to be God, if God isn't relatable, then we'd think of him as a villain or a natural force. However, there are endless possibilities for imagining how a God might really be. It's not possible to do a comparison based on thought exercises. This is where the Bible comes in. I see the Bible, in my anthropological theology, as revealed reality. Perhaps like a science experiment. This puts Mormons and Christians at a common starting point. From here, it's how do Jehovah, Jesus, the Father, and the HG get interpreted.
Lost Gospel of Thomas 1:8 - And Jesus said, "what about the Pharisees? They did it too! Wherefore, we shall do it even more!"
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I don't think, within Mormon Theology, there are any 'number counts' or estimations as to who will be gods/Gods. I think it is rather obvious, in my opinion, that it will be limited in scope. So those that are not gods? They're also children of a Heavenly Father along with those that become gods/Gods. Nothing changes in that respect. It's not like they're going to be disinherited from a throne of glory. They remain as resurrected beings in the image/likeness of God with their own unique characteristics.
What that looks like exactly, well, that's above my pay grade. We know so very little. That's so we can speculate to our heart's content. Smoothies and all that stuff. Brigham liked to speculate along with a lot of others.
The one that's true.
Personally, I think allowance will made for ANYONE of good faith that is doing the best they can do with what they've got. Including members of the church.
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