The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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_BartBurk
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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hobo1512 wrote:
why me wrote:And the Romney/Ryan ticket shows that Mormons and catholics can work together regardless of differences in their religion and that they can respect each other's beliefs and find grounds for agreement.

It is a good example for the CAF board.

But you still haven't proven your claim that Ryan was chosen BECAUSE he is Catholic.

Put up or shut up. It really is that simple.


I would only say that Ryan's being Catholic may have helped his selection since the white Catholic vote is often the swing vote in the Presidential election. But Romney is never going to say that was a consideration in selecting Ryan.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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BartBurk wrote:
I would only say that Ryan's being Catholic may have helped his selection since the white Catholic vote is often the swing vote in the Presidential election. But Romney is never going to say that was a consideration in selecting Ryan.


I think that you hit the nail on the head. Not to mention the fact that catholics tend to vote democrat. But with Obama's gaffe about catholic hospitals etc, many may be now tempted to vote for Romney with Ryan on the ticket.

Our dear friend Hobo has not figured it out.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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why me wrote:
café crema wrote:The LDS church makes no bones about declaring itself The Church of Jesus Christ with a prophet who speaks directly for God. Why should other churches, who don't believe this, not see the LDS prophet as a false prophet? And while it may be impolite to say so why should they be stopped from declaring their belief that the LDS prophet is false? It seems that you think other churches should be denied the right to say what they believe.


I guess it is hard for someone from the catholic board to understand. The language on the catholic board toward other faiths is terrible and uncatholic. If MDD posters would use such language about the catholic church, the catholic posters on CAF would be outraged complete with accusing the Mormons of lacking love for neighbor and teaching its members to hate other faiths.

Imagine MDD over and over again calling the pope a fake and a fraud or saying that the catholic church deceives its members or it depends on a fake spirit to lure its members... etc etc etc.

But I must admit, the moderator is attempting to reign in the strident posts about the LDS church. And it can be seen on the board now but...at times it does go back to the same old same old.


How about this from the profile of one of the Mormon members over at MAD. (bolding mine)

"My mission in life, is to convert the Pope; why i thought this, is because if you go for the head of the snake; the rest will crumble, but in my thought, the rest of the Catholic Church, would either call him a heretic, (most likely event) or, they will see it as sign of God, another revelation."

So much for Christ like behavior. So much for respecting other religions.

Check it out for yourself, his s/n is mormondude.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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BartBurk wrote:
I would only say that Ryan's being Catholic may have helped his selection since the white Catholic vote is often the swing vote in the Presidential election. But Romney is never going to say that was a consideration in selecting Ryan.
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I agree. Romney will never say it. But Why Me has made the claim that Ryan was chosen because he is Catholic.

I just want the proof that backs up his false claim.

Ryan was more than likely chosen because of his budget prowess more so than his religious affiliation.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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hobo1512 wrote:
BartBurk wrote:
I would only say that Ryan's being Catholic may have helped his selection since the white Catholic vote is often the swing vote in the Presidential election. But Romney is never going to say that was a consideration in selecting Ryan.
I agree. Romney will never say it. But Why Me has made the claim that Ryan was chosen because he is Catholic.

I just want the proof that backs up his false claim.

Ryan was more than likely chosen because of his budget prowess more so than his religious affiliation.


I think you are being extremely naïve hobo. In any political calculation, they would have evaluated the pros vs cons of selecting someone like Ryan. I can't imagine that Ryan being Catholic was not discussed by Romney and his handlers as a positive for selecting him.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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Tobin wrote:I think you are being extremely naïve hobo. In any political calculation, they would have evaluated the pros vs cons of selecting someone like Ryan. I can't imagine that Ryan being Catholic was not discussed by Romney and his handlers as a positive for selecting him.


I am not saying it wasn't considered. It probably was. They have to look at everything, including any potential skeletons.

I am merely stating that it wasn't the only, or primary reason. Why Me is the one who has made the claim that he was chosen because of being Catholic.

If you have read any of my previous posts, you would see that I clearly indicated that Ryan's budgeting prowess surely had something to do with it. In fact, I would venture a guess to say it is what caught Romney's eye first.

Not as naïve as you may think.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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hobo1512 wrote:
"My mission in life, is to convert the Pope; why i thought this, is because if you go for the head of the snake; the rest will crumble, but in my thought, the rest of the Catholic Church, would either call him a heretic, (most likely event) or, they will see it as sign of God, another revelation."

So much for Christ like behavior. So much for respecting other religions.

Check it out for yourself, his s/n is mormondude.


:lol:

Nice try. Read the posts on MDD. Nothing can compare it to CAF as Bart also confirms. Give it a rest. Take the catholic taliban to task for being uncatholic. And have them stop attacking other faiths on their board. Use your energy in a productive fashion. You will feel better for doing it.

The poor CAF people discussing Mormonism listen, and read antimormon videos and tracts and think that they are experts. My gosh, why spend so much time doing such things is beyond me. I wouldn't spend a minute on an anticatholic site to post on MDD to refute the catholic church in such an unchristlike way as they do on CAF.

However, romney and ryan are showing the CAFers the way to go: to have peace and cooperate to make the world better.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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why me wrote:
hobo1512 wrote:
"My mission in life, is to convert the Pope; why i thought this, is because if you go for the head of the snake; the rest will crumble, but in my thought, the rest of the Catholic Church, would either call him a heretic, (most likely event) or, they will see it as sign of God, another revelation."

So much for Christ like behavior. So much for respecting other religions.

Check it out for yourself, his s/n is mormondude.


:lol:

Nice try. Read the posts on MDD. Nothing can compare it to CAF as Bart also confirms. Give it a rest. Take the catholic taliban to task for being uncatholic. And have them stop attacking other faiths on their board. Use your energy in a productive fashion. You will feel better for doing it.

The poor CAF people discussing Mormonism listen, and read antimormon videos and tracts and think that they are experts. My gosh, why spend so much time doing such things is beyond me. I wouldn't spend a minute on an anticatholic site to post on MDD to refute the catholic church in such an unchristlike way as they do on CAF.

However, romney and ryan are showing the CAFers the way to go: to have peace and cooperate to make the world better.


Just out of curiosity, besides me how many other Catholics do you find on the MDD board? There seem to be quite a few Mormons that periodically showed up on CAF when I was posting over there. My guess is that very few Catholics wind up at the MDD board.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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why me wrote:
hobo1512 wrote:
"My mission in life, is to convert the Pope; why i thought this, is because if you go for the head of the snake; the rest will crumble, but in my thought, the rest of the Catholic Church, would either call him a heretic, (most likely event) or, they will see it as sign of God, another revelation."

So much for Christ like behavior. So much for respecting other religions.

Check it out for yourself, his s/n is mormondude.


:lol:

Nice try. Read the posts on MDD. Nothing can compare it to CAF as Bart also confirms. Give it a rest. Take the catholic taliban to task for being uncatholic. And have them stop attacking other faiths on their board. Use your energy in a productive fashion. You will feel better for doing it.

The poor CAF people discussing Mormonism listen, and read antimormon videos and tracts and think that they are experts. My gosh, why spend so much time doing such things is beyond me. I wouldn't spend a minute on an anticatholic site to post on MDD to refute the catholic church in such an unchristlike way as they do on CAF.

However, romney and ryan are showing the CAFers the way to go: to have peace and cooperate to make the world better.


While other religions may be treated better on MD&D, posters over there are really vicious in their attacks on and mocking of individuals, and as someone else here noted on MD&D they eat their own. As for taking CAF to task, you have never taken a Mormon poster to task for anything no matter how cruel, so your sanctimonious toning rings hollow.
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Re: The Mormon/Catholic ticket

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BartBurk wrote:
Just out of curiosity, besides me how many other Catholics do you find on the MDD board? There seem to be quite a few Mormons that periodically showed up on CAF when I was posting over there. My guess is that very few Catholics wind up at the MDD board.


There are a few. They leave and come back. Usually they can be seen on catholic related threads. Right now there is one thread now on MDD about catholics and Mormons. Some of the catholics are posting on that thread. Check it out.

Mormons who show up on CAF do so to defend the LDS church against the claims of CAFers about Mormonism. I think that these Mormons were as surprised that I was that there is so much hatred toward the Mormon church on a catholic site. And of course, after their defense of the LDS church they are eventually banned.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world.
Joseph Smith


We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…”
Joseph Smith
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