Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:44 pm
Seeing the post pop up everywhere on social media. Not sure if it’s accurate:

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The alleged assassin behind Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk’s death on September 10 is described by a friend as being “pretty left on everything,” according to a report from the Guardian.


A high school friend of 22-year-old Utah resident Tyler Robinson who “asked to remain anonymous” told the outlet that while Robinson’s family were “very hard Republican,” Robinson was “the only member of his family that was really leftist.”

Robinson was described as becoming “more extreme in his political views” around his sophomore year, the friend told the outlet:

In a phone interview on Friday, one of Tyler Robinson’s high school friends, who asked to remain anonymous, said that the suspect was “pretty left on everything” and was “the only member of his family that was really leftist.”

“The rest of his family was very hard Republican,” the friend said.

Around sophomore year, the friend said, Robinson became more extreme in his political views and would “always just be ranting and arguing about them.”


Breitbart News’s AWR Hawkins reported that during a press conference announcing Robinson’s capture, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R) noted that the assassin would be charged and “held accountable.”


“There is one person responsible for what happened here, and that person is now in custody and will be charged soon and will be held accountable,” Cox said.

Cox also revealed that “on the evening of September 11, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff’s Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.”
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In addition to this we know that Lance Twigg was Tyler Robinson's gay or furry boyfriend. Lance is the guy who Tyler texted to go get the gun he used to kill Charlie Kirk out of the wooded area and hide it. Lance didn't say anything about this until authorities confronted him. So just as I said, and as every rational thinking person should have known almost immediately, Charlie Kirk's assassin was a Democrat and radical leftist ideologue homosexual, just like the last three mass shooters. His lover who was willing to keep his secret from the police is transitioning from a man into a woman. His family who were conservative Mormons turned him in. If Tyler Robinson wasn't radicalized in his semester in college, he was radicalized online in groups full of people similar to the people here. Yes you, Everyone Wang Chung, who claims that Charlie Kirk was violent to the people who have been dancing on his grave and cursing his memory because he made political statements throughout his life (many of which are circulating are also lies or half truths) that leftists didn't agree with. Why are we seeing a rise in radical leftwing terrorism? It's because of the permission structure the left gives to it's violent factions. If you say homosexuality is a sin, than that is considered violence and it's reasonable that those offended by this view should answer with violence by striking first violently. What about when a black man, let out of jail after 14 arrests and several convictions, kills a white Ukrainian woman for no apparent reason. (Reports say DeCarlos claims Irina called him the dreaded (N word) which the left clearly believes merits a violent response. Of course DeCalros was lying. But he knew what to say to gain sympathy from the leftists judges and juries. Now his lawyer will probably try to claim that it is societies fault for failure to provide sufficient social welfare programs and mental health treatment facilities (like they would ever protect society from him). Another group for which the mainstream Democrat party provides a permission structure for violence are the radical Marxists, who claim that the only way to solve the problem of wealth inequality is to murder all the rich conservatives (defined as any conservative who owns more than one vehicle) and redistribute the wealth, Animal farm style! We know that Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, or Zoram Mamdani would never be defined as rich. Then of course there is the last faction of the Democrat party which mainstream Democrats have sought to provide a permission structure for violence, radical Islamic terrorists.

The same people saying that you have to respect freedom of speech for those who want to dance on Charlie Kirk's grave are the same people that banned Donald Trump and conservatives from Twitter because they claim he offered a permission structure to capital rioters, who ultimately contrary to leftists lies killed no one at the capital that day. So when people ask why can't a leftist celebrate Charlie Kirks murder if they have the first amendment right to do so, I say that the first amendment has already been violated for any conservative attempting to post on social media. Whatever social contract existed before is in breach. And until one side shows some contrition and willingness to enforce the first amendment in a nonpartisan manner, then I see no problem with applying the first amendment to Marxists, violent reverse racists, and radical Islamic terrorists, in the same way they've applied it to us under the same way they've twisted the constitution.
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Robinson’s relationship with a transgender roommate, if indeed it’s true, doesn’t change the fact that his online persona was 100% Right-wing. He engaged with Groyper-style memes, far-Right grievance-posting, and conspiratorial content that targeted liberals, immigrants, and “woke” culture. Far-Rightists, as we’ve seen over and over again, often live in ways that contradict their public-facing ideology. What defines their politics is the worldview they promote in real life and identify with online. In Robinson’s case, his digital footprint makes it clear he was immersed in a Right-wing ecosystem, regardless of his personal relationship.

That said, there is, in fact, a Groyper (and NatSoc) obsession with ‘femboys’ and sometimes transgendered MTFs. You’ll often see memes about it, bantering around the subject, brinksmanship with regard to the issue, and outright involvement. This isn’t uncommon to see. It isn’t uncommon to see them denounce Jews and Democrats on the one han as degenerates, and then openly fetishize femboys and MTF transgenders. The ideological inconsistency is the point, in a sort of meta way.

Think of it as straight men in the GOP joking around about being hot for Log Cabin Republicans, with some taking it further and further until a few actually start having homosexual tendencies and/or relationships.They’d still support God, church, and traditional marriage all the while engaging in BDSM with their Republican boyfriend in private.

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Why are we seeing a rise in radical leftwing terrorism? It's because of the permission structure the left gives to it's violent factions.
Sheer projection. right-wing violence has been increasing at an unfettered pace. Trump even had the study removed from the national institute of justice.

Goddamn, you really do never tire of being stupid and wrong, don’t you?

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Why are we seeing a rise in radical leftwing terrorism? It's because of the permission structure the left gives to it's violent factions.
Sheer projection. right-wing violence has been increasing at an unfettered pace. Trump even had the study removed from the national institute of justice.

Goddamn, you really do never tire of being stupid and wrong, don’t you?

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While left-wing political violence has appeared sporadically in modern decades, data consistently indicate that right-wing actors are responsible for the majority of extremist violence. Reports by organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center show that right-wing extremists dominate organized networks and lethal incidents.

Remember that both the FBI and DHS have identified racially-motivated and anti-government violent extremism, often rooted in far-right or alt-right and ultra-conservative ideologies, as the most persistent and lethal domestic threat. Their joint assessments consistently describe right-wing extremist activity as posing greater risks compared to left-wing or other categories.

Moreover, a 2020 congressional report based on filings and testimonies highlighted that in a dataset of 29 extremist murders in U.S. committed in 2018 and 2019, 26 were attributed to right-wing extremists. This report, presented during oversight hearings, emphasized the dominance of right-wing actors and their ideologies in recent years of lethal political violence.
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ON SEPTEMBER 10th Charlie Kirk, a right-wing activist, was shot dead while speaking at a university in Utah. Although a suspect is in custody, the motive of the killer is still unknown. President Donald Trump, who has himself been the target of gunmen, pinned the blame on rhetoric from the “radical left”. Assessing political violence in America is inherently subjective: analysts must determine which forms of violence count as political and assign ideological labels to attackers or victims. But the studies and datasets available—largely compiled by researchers whom sceptical conservatives would probably dismiss as biased—suggest that the killing of Mr Kirk is not representative of broader trends.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 12:02 am
In addition to this we know that Lance Twigg was Tyler Robinson's gay or furry boyfriend. Lance is the guy who Tyler texted to go get the gun he used to kill Charlie Kirk out of the wooded area and hide it. Lance didn't say anything about this until authorities confronted him. So just as I said, and as every rational thinking person should have known almost immediately, Charlie Kirk's assassin was a Democrat and radical leftist ideologue homosexual, just like the last three mass shooters.
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What a shock, the shameless Nazi has managed to warp reality into the very thing he was going to believe anyhow.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 12:02 am
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The alleged assassin behind Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk’s death on September 10 is described by a friend as being “pretty left on everything,” according to a report from the Guardian.


A high school friend of 22-year-old Utah resident Tyler Robinson who “asked to remain anonymous” told the outlet that while Robinson’s family were “very hard Republican,” Robinson was “the only member of his family that was really leftist.”
The Guardian retracted all of those quotes from the so-called "friend."

From looking at timestamps, it looks like the Guardian's retraction and "Editor's note" may have been before Breitbart's ran with their piece. Even if not, there's no reason for them not to include it, and retract the quotes as well. I keep waiting for the tipping point when you'll grow tired of being lied to constantly by your chosen sources.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:56 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 12:02 am
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The Guardian retracted all of those quotes from the so-called "friend."

From looking at timestamps, it looks like the Guardian's retraction and "Editor's note" may have been before Breitbart's ran with their piece. Even if not, there's no reason for them not to include it, and retract the quotes as well. I keep waiting for the tipping point when you'll grow tired of being lied to constantly by your chosen sources.
If you're looking for a Trump voter angry enough at Charlie Kirk to kill him, you're going to be looking for a long time. Use your common sense, the only people that hate Charlie Kirk enough to kill him are leftists. They are the only ones celebrating the murder.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:39 pm
If you're looking for a Trump voter angry enough at Charlie Kirk to kill him, you're going to be looking for a long time.
It was literally a Trump voter who tried to kill Trump in Florida. I'm not sure it takes all that much searching to find violent right-wing extremists that are mentally unhinged and completely detached from reality. A simple visit to any right-wing chat room should be more than enough to put that silly notion to bed. The far-right is constantly infighting, and spouting violent rhetoric. That's what happens when you have people who fantasize about war and guns trying to out purity test each other.
Use your common sense, the only people that hate Charlie Kirk enough to kill him are leftists. They are the only ones celebrating the murder.
That's a lot of words for "yeah, I was lied to yet again, but ultimately I just don't care."

Everyone jumped at "it was a crazy leftist" when Trump was shot. Turned out it was an apolitical nut job just looking for an opportunity for a high profile target. Everyone jumped at "it was a crazy leftist" when Trump was shot at again. Turned out it was someone who flip-flopped between ideologies, but had voted for and supported Trump before. Everyone jumped at "it was a gay lover" when Pelosi's husband was almost assassinated. Turns out it was an unhinged right-wing nut job.

Perhaps that "common sense" everyone keeps relying on so much might be a little flawed.

It might end up being political. It might be more of an unhinged romantic protection type thing of toxic masculinity ("I shall defend the honor of my trans lover."). It might end up being he was just caught up in brain rot, and had lost touch with reality and was literally trying to create a meme in real life (the timing of Kirk's topic, and the shot). Or, he could be a radicalized leftist who was brainwashed during a single semester of UVU and trade schools are now woke leftist indoctrination mills. The fact is, almost every time MAGA was cock-sure of the motives of a violent act, they've been wrong. Maybe some restraint on drawing conclusions can be warranted. Then again, I guess at some point, amongst being consistently wrong, you're statistically bound to be right.

Pro-tip: Leftists aren't the only ones who think saying it's God's divine law that all gay people should be murdered is hateful. There are plenty of people on the right that find that type of rhetoric abhorrent. The "left" also isn't the only place where trans and gay people exist.
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