Guilt and Denial

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_Aristotle Smith
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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Runtu wrote:Image


It's good to know I have lowered my guilt levels from 8.19 to a more manageable 5.75. Sex frequency remains unchanged.
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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Runtu,

Your 'guilt by denomination' is a bit of a show stopper.

Mormons feel more guilty than anyone else. Fact.

Now that could be either Mormonism propagating feelings of guilt or it could be that Mormonism attracts those amongst us most prone to guilty feelings.

Want to lower your guilt factor?
1. Work your nuts off doing everything the Church requires of you in the hope that you'll feel better. (statistically a long shot)
2. Become a Unitarian. (statistically even money)
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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Oh no! Atheists are more guilty than agnostics.

And we don't have anybody to blame for it ...
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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Chap wrote:Oh no! Atheists are more guilty than agnostics.

And we don't have anybody to blame for it ...


Yeah but atheists don't believe they are guilty and agnostics aren't really all that bothered...
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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How is unitarian and judasim feel less guilt than atheists?

What do atheists have to feel guilty about?
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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Rambo wrote:What do atheists have to feel guilty about?

Ayn Rand
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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asbestosman wrote: getting the poor to pay tithing,


And yet, it was Christ who praised the poor woman for giving her triffle to the temple. It seems that Christ did not say that the poor woman should have kept her penny. Just the opposite. He called her blessed.
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Runtu wrote:
Themis wrote:I remember the first room I went into after saying goodbye to my parents in the MTC. It was a little meeting that was exclusively a guilt trip about not confessing previous sins. Then they sent us straight to our first worthiness interview. Fun stuff. ONly myself and one other guy came out not having shed tears.


I remember that, too. The MTC was all about guilt and confessing unresolved sins. I wracked my brain to try and remember anything I'd forgotten to confess, and I still felt guilty. I guess what sticks with me is that, although I was quite innocent as a child and teenager, I still felt burdened with guilt and inadequacy. I think I understand why, but it's not because LDS standards were higher.

I don't know why it was such a relief to find this morning that, despite what I've been told, I'm not alone in feeling that guilt. It's like a light has turned on for me.


Yup, I remember that too. I didn't have the sin they were looking for (unconfessed masturbation), so I spent a lot of time finding other things to feel guilty for.
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The Church agrees that it is essential for the very poor to pay tithing.

No bishop, no missionary should ever hesitate or lack the faith to teach the law of tithing to the poor. The sentiment of “They can’t afford to” needs to be replaced with “They can’t afford not to.”

One of the first things a bishop must do to help the needy is ask them to pay their tithing. Like the widow, if a destitute family is faced with the decision of paying their tithing or eating, they should pay their tithing. The bishop can help them with their food and other basic needs until they become self reliant. Lynn. G. Robbins 1st Quorum of the Seventy
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Re: Guilt and Denial

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why me wrote:
asbestosman wrote: getting the poor to pay tithing,


And yet, it was Christ who praised the poor woman for giving her triffle to the temple. It seems that Christ did not say that the poor woman should have kept her penny. Just the opposite. He called her blessed.


Jesus was a nut who thought the end of the world was around the corner. He also encouraged his followers to quit their jobs and abandon their families.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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