Ten Questions - Interview with the Stake Presidency

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beastie wrote:1. What do you think the impact would be on wards if individual members took upon themselves the role of ferreting out closet nonbelievers and attempting to ascertain if those same nonbelievers are trying to undermine other people's faith, or if they are simply trying to resolve troubling issues, in order to expose them and force them out of the church?




Freud would have a field day with you Beastie.
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Freud would have a field day with you Beastie.


What an odd comment, considering that I am not a closet nonbeliever nor do I attend church, nor do I have any ecclesiastic leader to fear.

My comment was a direct response to Will's previous comments about undertaking the job to ferret out and report closet nonbelievers wherever he could find them. But, given your posting history, I don't expect you to allow reality to intrude upon your fantasy world.
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Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out. You're welcome to post here. Anyone is. But, frankly, you certainly won't be missed by me. Anyone who treats Runtu the way you have is truly an ass.




Runtu deserves what he gets, as far as I'm concerned. He loves, yes, to play the soft spoken, easily entreated, fair minded critic who just wants to understand.

Whats the reality? Runtu is as vicious and snarky a critic of the Church as any here. He's much nicer about it, at least until you confront him with his often poor arguments or moonbatty slanders of the Brethren, but the colors are of a softer hue.

Until you confront his passive aggression in a more substantial manner. Then the happy face comes off and the war paint is slathered on profusely.

Will the wagon circling never end?
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Post by _guy sajer »

mentalgymnast wrote:
Funny. I find myself asking whether died in the wool skeptics are living in the State of Denial also. I guess it goes both ways. How many here may have had unrealistic expectations...even after having found out that the church has been whitewashing its history...and were not able to make significant, yet reasonable, paradigm shifts. Denying that it was/possible and even reasonable to do so.

A judgement or series of judgements were made and then...story over.

Regards,
MG


I do not find it unreasonable for me to hold God to at least as high as moral standards as he holds us.

I do not believe mass murder to be moral, let alone mass murder for the "sin" of disobedience or disbelief.

A God who commits mass murder is neither worthy of my devotion, even if he did exist.

That such a God commads us to refrain from murder, but who commits it himself, tells me that this God is most likely of human creation.

I do not believe a paradigm shift in this case--to accept the morality of mass murder--is called for.
God . . . "who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, . . . and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him ..."
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Do we ever get to hear the answers that the SP gave?
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Post by _Boaz & Lidia »

Coggins7 wrote:Will the wagon circling never end?
In your case, you'd better hope the circling does not speed up, else you would fall off the wagon again...
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asbestosman wrote:
6. Are females more righteous than men? If so, why, and why doesn't this make god a respector of persons?



Hello,

According to LDS Doctrine, Yes, Women are more righteous than men. That is why according to LDS Doctrine, that there will be Polygamy in Heaven, because there will be more women than men in the Celestial Kingdom, according to LDS Doctrine. The Following is from Brigham Young:

Monogamy, or restrictions by law to one wife, is no part of the economy of Heaven among men. Such a system was commenced by the founders of the Roman empire. That empire was founded on the banks of the Tiber by wandering brigands. When these robbers founded the city of Rome, it was evident to them that their success in attaining a balance of power with their neighbours, depended upon introducing females into their body politic, so they stole them from the Sabines, who were near neighbours. The scarcity of women gave existence to laws restricting one wife to one man. Rome became the mistress of the world, and introduced this order of monogamy wherever her sway was acknowledged. Thus this monogamic order of marriage, so esteemed by modern Christians as a holy sacrament and divine institution, is nothing but a system established by a set of robbers.

...

Why do we believe in and practise polygamy? Because the Lord introduced it to his servants in a revelation given to Joseph Smith, and the Lord's servants have always practiced it. "And is that religion popular in heaven?" It is the only popular religion there, for this is the religion of Abraham, and, unless we do the works of Abraham, we are not Abraham's seed and heirs according to promise.

( Journal of Discourses, Volume #9. , Bold Emphasis Mine. )
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Canucklehead wrote:Do we ever get to hear the answers that the SP gave?


Probably not.
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John Larsen wrote:Here are a few questions:

1. After the death of his first wife, Dallin Oaks proclaimed in a 2002 talk given at BYU that his second wife was his eternal companion. Will Dallin Oaks have 2 eternal companions, or did the second wife take the place of the first wife?
2. The Book of Mormon forcefully proclaims that there are two Churches; the Church of the Devil or the Church of God. Is the Roman Catholic Church part of the Church of the devil or the Church of God?
3. If ordinances used by the Church are a restoration of ancient ordinances, and if the modification of ordinances, such as sprinkling for Baptism, by the Catholic Church and others are a sign of their apostasy, is the modification of ordinances such as the 2005 change to symbolically wash and anoint a sign of apostasy? Which version represents the restored version?
4. What happened to the second anointing? Is it no longer necessary? If it is not necessary why was it performed? Is it performed today in secret?
5. Were the blacks legitimately denied the priesthood before 1978 or were the brethren wrong about this policy?
6. Could the Lord raise a prophet, like Samuel the Lamanite or Jeremiah from outside the Church to reform the Church? Why not?


Ooh, these are good.
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Brackite wrote:Hello all here,

Why is it fine for LDS women to remain single in the Church, but not for LDS men to remain single?
Please Check Out and See:
To the Single Adult Brethren of the Church
To the Single Adult Sisters of the Church


Good Question!
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