The Redacted Mueller Report

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You think you know better than most of your impoverished constituency, openly hate Republicans and would see executed anyone who disagrees with your world view if you had the power to do so.

I see this eyebrow-raising claim from enough riight-leaning sources that I wonder if it just a way of convincing themselves why it will be ok to be first to steer conflicts over ideology into fatal outcomes for their perceived ‘oppressors’.
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honorentheos wrote:
How is that a bad thing?


Government is getting to powerful. I know you laugh at the deep state, but it is real. People like Comey, Hillary, Strotz, etc have been working the back channel.

We believe Mueller is part of it too.

So the government attacking this president is a bad thing. Really bad.

But if you are against him, you won't allow yourself to see it.
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SPG wrote:
honorentheos wrote:
How is that a bad thing?


Government is getting to powerful. I know you laugh at the deep state, but it is real. People like Comey, Hillary, Strotz, etc have been working the back channel.

We believe Mueller is part of it too.

So the government attacking this president is a bad thing. Really bad.

But if you are against him, you won't allow yourself to see it.


Who is this "we" to which you are referring?
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Jersey Girl wrote:[

Who is this "we" to which you are referring?

Deplorables
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SPG wrote:Government is getting to powerful. I know you laugh at the deep state, but it is real. People like Comey, Hillary, Strotz, etc have been working the back channel.

We believe Mueller is part of it too.


So you are part of a 'we'' that has a collective opinion.

Hmm. May I ask:

(a) How does a member of that 'we' know what the others are thinking? Do you have some kind of email list that keeps you up to date on what 'we' think? If not, who tells you what 'we' are thinking?

(b) How is that collective opinion formed? Do you have a central committee of the 'we' who gather and sift data, and then propose opinions for all the members of your 'we' to approve or disapprove? Or what?

Or is 'we believe' really just a way of saying something else altogether - such as 'its what they said on Fox and Friends last Thursday'? Be straight with your readers about this, please.
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This is interesting information from the Mueller report.

The Mueller report contains new information about how the Russian government hacked documents and emails from Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

At one point, the Russians used servers located in the U.S. to carry out the massive data exfiltration effort, the report confirms.

Much of the information was previously learned from the indictment of Viktor Borisovich Netyksho, the Russian officer in charge of Unit 26165. Netyksho is believed to be still at large in Russia.

But new details in the 488-page redacted report released by the Justice Department on Thursday offered new insight into how the GRU operatives hacked.

The operatives working for the Russian intelligence directorate, the GRU, sent dozens of targeted spearphishing emails in just five days to the work and personal accounts of Clinton Campaign employees and volunteers, as a way to break into the campaign’s computer systems.

The GRU hackers also gained access to the email account of John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, of which its contents were later published.

Using credentials they stole along the way, the hackers broke into the networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee days later. By stealing the login details of a system administrator who had “unrestricted access” to the network, the hackers broke into 29 computers in the ensuing weeks, and more than 30 computers on the DNC.

The operatives, known collectively as “Fancy Bear,” comprised several units tasked with specific operations. Mueller formally blamed Unit 26165, a division of the GRU specializing in targeting government and political organizations, for taking on the “primary responsibility for hacking the DCCC and DNC, as well as email accounts of individuals affiliated with the Clinton Campaign,” said the Mueller report.

The hackers used Mimikatz, a hacking tool used once an intruder is already in a target network, to collect credentials, and two other kinds of malware: X-Agent for taking screenshots and logging keystrokes, and X-Tunnel used to exfiltrate massive amounts of data from the network to servers controlled by the GRU. Mueller’s report found that Unit 26165 used several “middle servers” to act as a buffer between the hacked networks and the GRU’s main operations. Those servers, Mueller said, were hosted in Arizona — likely as a way to obfuscate where the attackers were located but also to avoid suspicion or detection.

In all, some 70 gigabytes of data were exfiltrated from Clinton’s campaign servers and some 300 gigabytes of data were obtained from the DNC’s network.

Meanwhile, another GRU hacking unit, Unit 74455, which helped disseminate and publish hacked and stolen documents, pushed the stolen data out through two fictitious personas. DCLeaks was a website that hosted the hacked material, while Guccifer 2.0 was a hacker-like figure who had a social presence and would engage with reporters.

Under pressure from the U.S. government, the two GRU-backed personas were shut down by the social media companies. Later, tens of thousands of hacked files were funneled to and distributed by WikiLeaks .

Mueller’s report also found a cause-and-effect between Trump’s remarks in July 2016 and subsequent cyberattacks.

“I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” said then-candidate Trump at a press conference, referring to emails Clinton stored on a personal email server while she headed the State Department. Mueller’s report said “within approximately five hours” of those remarks, GRU officers began targeting for the first time Clinton’s personal office.

More than a dozen staffers were targeted by Unit 26165, including a senior aide. “It is unclear how the GRU was able to identify these email accounts, which were not public,” said Mueller.

Mueller said the Trump campaign made efforts to “find the deleted Clinton emails.” Trump is said to have privately asked would-be national security advisor Michael Flynn, since convicted following inquiries by the Special Counsel’s office, to reach out to associates to obtain the emails. One of those associates was Peter Smith, who died by suicide in May 2017, who claimed to be in contact with Russian hackers — claims which Mueller said were not true.

Does that implicate the Trump campaign in an illegal act? Likely not.


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Re: The Redacted Mueller Report

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SPG wrote:
honorentheos wrote:
How is that a bad thing?


Government is getting to powerful. I know you laugh at the deep state, but it is real. People like Comey, Hillary, Strotz, etc have been working the back channel.

We believe Mueller is part of it too.

But you believe that the Trump Administration is devoid of folks who have interfaced heavily between government and business through lobbying, or is staffed solely with folks that are incapable of ‘working the back channel’ for gain.

How do you explain that?
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Re: The Redacted Mueller Report

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SPG wrote:Government is getting to powerful. I know you laugh at the deep state, but it is real. People like Comey, Hillary, Strotz, etc have been working the back channel.

We believe Mueller is part of it too.

So the government attacking this president is a bad thing. Really bad.

But if you are against him, you won't allow yourself to see it.

Yeah, I think the reason you sound so dumb is that you talk like a religious person. These aren't your own thoughts; you got them from your religious leader.

The deep state... “F” off. How damned thoughtless can you be? A moron came up with that term and idiots have been repeating it ever since. You do yourself no favors by clinging to that crap.

Is everyone who works for the government a saint? Obviously not. Is there a cabal of people working in concert at the highest levels of government trying to subvert the fine men and women of the GOP that we could call the deep state? You're out of your damned mind. Only an idiot like Sean Hannity would say that, because that's the sort of thing idiots say. Only an idiot would believe it, because that's the sort of thing idiots believe.

You could improve you own persuasiveness by doing your own research and thinking for yourself... but I'm not holding my breath.
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SPG wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:[

Who is this "we" to which you are referring?

Deplorables


Nice response. This is BS. I have no idea why anyone bothers to reply to you.
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Re: The Redacted Mueller Report

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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
SPG wrote:Government is getting to powerful. I know you laugh at the deep state, but it is real. People like Comey, Hillary, Strotz, etc have been working the back channel.

We believe Mueller is part of it too.

So the government attacking this president is a bad thing. Really bad.

But if you are against him, you won't allow yourself to see it.

Yeah, I think the reason you sound so dumb is that you talk like a religious person.


Not sure what you said after this. But it seems like you think you are better than I. Tell me that isn't true. Tell me you don't think you are better than me.
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