DCP naming names again

[_Darth J]

I am beginning to think that Pahoran is becoming subject to an obsession that is distorting his vision of reality.

It's called "Mormonism," Chap.

[_Chap]

And isn't it fascinating how all his boosters are so anxious to "assure" everyone that Scratch isn't who I think he is?

Well, if he's not that person, then neither Liz nor I have broken any rules, have we?

"I was under the impression that I was revealing in real life information about a poster that he would not want revealed, but I went ahead and posted it all the same, despite the rule against it. But Yay! I was wrong about the poster's identity, so I didn't break any rules!"

Try that on Shades. I think you will find that things work differently round here.

[_Pahoran]

You don't know any more about the definition of "actual malice" in a defamation suit than you do the definition of "systematic theology."

I've got no idea what that is supposed to be a reference to, but if you think I don't know what systematic theology is, you need to stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking and get back to reality.

"Actual malice" for defamation means "reckless disregard for the truth."

lulu - redundantly

Not quite. Actual malice means "knowing or reckless disregard for the truth." It's not merely the case that the worthless Scratch doesn't care whether his accusations are true or false; it is the case that he prefers them to be false. He's a liar by preference.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Pahoran]

Well, if he's not that person, then neither Liz nor I have broken any rules, have we?

Regards,
Pahoran

So you think the burden of proceeding as well as proof should lie with the person you think you have outed?

If someone wants to accuse me of breaking some rule or other then yes, they assume the burden of proving that.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_Stormy Waters]

Well, if he's not that person, then neither Liz nor I have broken any rules, have we?

Regards,
Pahoran

"Outing" someone while not even been sure that you are outing the right person is reckless and stupid regardless of the circumstances.

[_Yoda]

Did Pahoran tell me that he thought that Chino Blanco was Scratch? Yes, he did.

Did you tell Pahoran that he wasn't correct, or did you pile on? This is a pretty important point.

I didn't know if Pahoran was correct or not. Pahoran was the one who informed me of who he thought Scratch was. I am not sure what you mean by "pile on". I did not give him any information that I might have access to, if that is what you are implying.

Did I suggest that Dan unfriend Jason Echols, who was on Dan's Facebook friend list? Yes, I did. (by the way, Dan does not know Jason, and has no idea why that person was on his friends list to begin with.)

Why in the world would you be scouring Mr. Peterson's Facebook friend list, and pointing out potential "enemies"?
When Pahoran told me that he thought that Jason Echols was Scratch, and that he had told Dan about it, I went to Dan's Facebook page to see if, by any chance, Jason was on Dan's friend list. Scratch had admited to gaining information about Dan via Facebook, so I wanted to see if there might have been a connection there. Dan and I are Facebook friends, so it is not unusual for me to check Dan's page.
Pahoran had already told Dan that he thought Jason was Scratch. All I did was notice that Jason Echols' name was on Dan's Friends list, and suggested that he remove Jason as a friend as a security precaution.

Why would you do this if you didn't think Chino Blanco was Dr. Scratch? Did you give Mr. Peterson the impression Chino Blanco might be Dr. Scratch?
I didn't know. I simply suggested DCP do this as a precaution in case that is what was going on. I thought it was odd that this person was a friend on his Facebook list when Dan had told me that he had no idea who this person was. A question I would still love answered is why Echols wanted to friend Dan in the first place?
I did read on Jason's Facebook page (which is public) that he spent time in Taiwan. The comment I made to Scratch was an obscure swipe. It was a payback for his prior pulling of crap on me when he has tried to get me ousted as a Moderator previously.

This clearly looks like you thought Dr. Scratch was Chino Blanco. Also, why in the world are you reading Chino Blanco's Facebook page?
It is a public page. Again, I was trying to figure out if Pahoran was right or not.
It was an obscure enough swipe that if Scratch was NOT Jason Echols, Scratch would not know what the hell I was talking about, and it would be no harm no foul. If Scratch WAS Jason, then it would allow him to know that I suspected who he was, and he better simply leave me alone.

So you Internet sleuthed evidence for Dr. Scratch's identity, thought it was Chino Blanco, discussed it with Pahoran, and warned Mr. Peterson that Chino Blanco might be Dr. Scratch?

No. I Internet sleuthed Chino Blanco's Facebook page to see if what Pahoran had told me was correct. Pahoran discussed it with me, not the other way around...and Pahoran was the one who told Dan. I was trying to see if I could help Dan figure out if he had something to worry about or not.
- Dr. Cam

[_Pahoran]

Gee, Pahoran. Why don't you stop begging the question in this thread, and courageously impress us all in this other thread?

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... =1&t=26689

Drag your red herrings in front of someone else, Darth. I'm not dancing to your tune just because you demand it.

Regards,
Pahoran

[_LDSToronto]

I think it's just plain AWESOME that Dan has enlisted Pahoran and Liz to sleuth out the in real life identity of Dr. Scratch.

You know what they say - with friends like Pahoran and Liz...

H.

[_Chap]

I am beginning to think that Pahoran is becoming subject to an obsession that is distorting his vision of reality.

It's called "Mormonism," Chap.

I see what you mean. The CoJCoLDS does seem to generate a rather special kind of defender, I must say. Of course, that's one of the things that makes Mormon-watching so intriguing as a pastime. I've really never seen anything else to match it.

[_LDSToronto]

Gee, Pahoran. Why don't you stop begging the question in this thread, and courageously impress us all in this other thread?

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... =1&t=26689

Drag your red herrings in front of someone else, Darth. I'm not dancing to your tune just because you demand it.

Regards,
Pahoran

LOL! Encyclopedia Brown just called the law a red herring. Oh, god, you are one source of never-ending dumb, aren't you, P-man?

H.