Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Bob Loblaw wrote:
harmony wrote:I don't think he's crazy or evil. I think he's just a pathetically sad example of a church member who hates his life and desperately wants to be something he's not. He made choices in his early life that put him on the path he is currently on, and he feels trapped by those choices. The only way he feels good about himself and his life now is to bury his inadequacies under as much hubris as he can muster.

Pathetic and sad are the most apt words I can find to describe him.


I used to think that. I felt sorry for him because of the reasons you mentioned; every time I read something of his, I wondered at the depth of the inferiority complex that would drive someone to act like that. I have seen enough of him to stop feeling bad for him. Whether his motivations are pitiable or not, his actions and words are evil, which is not something I pity.


A posting of william's I wish I had saved, was his resignation letter from MAD. He pronounced he was leaving MAD, when it still was MAD, after several other posters publicly announced their exists.

William exit was spectacular, I had not been on MAD long, but quickly realized what a gargantuan ass william is. His exist posting was essentially this "I am too smart for all of you. You all do not appreciate my intellect. Therefor I leave you to yourselves in your dumb stupor."

I wish I had saved it, sometime later the tit returned, and it was brought up that he had left and proclaimed his intellectual superiority. He then pulled his favorite move of non-denial and claimed that it must be proven. Had I known then the importance of screen capture, I would make his arrogance my signature line.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Will is a pathological liar in a way that is different from apologetic prevarication many here are accustomed to. It will serve us well to be aware of the difference.
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Sophocles wrote:I see a lot in common between apologists like Will Schryver and Daniel Peterson and the Newt Gingrich campaign.

Such a flawed candidate would surely hurt the cause of the GOP more than help it. Yet there is a certain voter who is so angry at Obama and the Democrats that they want revenge even more than they want to win. They saw Gingrich as the candidate who was both smart enough and vicious enough to embarrass Obama in a televised debate. That's what they craved more than anything else, to see Obama put in his place by his intellectual superior, even if it meant nominating someone who was ultimately unelectable.

I think there are a lot of believers who are similarly offended by the critics who publish what they consider to be anti-Mormon literature. They feel personally attacked, and they want to respond in kind. They don't really care if it ultimately helps or hurts the cause of the church, and that's why Peterson and his ilk are able to raise so much money.


Brilliance captured for posterity. I've siad this before, Soph, but I think your posts have the highest signal to noise ratio of any on the Internet.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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I thought this was a nice reflection on Nancy Rigdon from that post:

William the Conqueror wrote: Poor Nancy will never know what she missed and will yet miss out on. She strikes me as intellectually rigid and physically frigid. I’m not even sure an alpha male like Joseph (or me, of course) could get a woman like Nancy to loosen up and get in touch with her entire soul. Oh, well, like you said, Nancy missed out, but there were others willing to enjoy what she was unwilling to.
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Bret Ripley wrote:
mercyngrace wrote:Calculated condescension and crafted contempt couched in verbose verse is hardly clever. It's an excuse for wit and anyone with a thesaurus can do it. (Example provided.)
Ahem: "Calculated condescension and crafted contempt couched in circumlocutory composition is the converse of clever." (Sorry 'bout that -- I just thought your example exhibited too much wit and too little thesaurus.)

DrW wrote:Well, you certainly got enough thesaurus in that one. :-)

"Calculated condescension in conjunction with crafted contempt couched in circumlocutory composition is the converse of clever."

Though I'd tuck in a little bit more thesaurus.
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After having boasted that several women have thrown themselves at him over the years, Mr. Schryver muses what the next life may bring...

William the Conqueror wrote: Believe me, I’m looking forward to it. As you can well imagine, there is nothing an alpha male desires quite as much as a fecund field in which to plant his seed.


I just threw up a little... This Mormon priesthood & temple recommend holder certainly looks forward to having sex with multiple wives in the afterlife...

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café crema wrote:"Calculated condescension in conjunction with crafted contempt couched in circumlocutory composition is the converse of clever."

Though I'd tuck in a little bit more thesaurus.


It's not the irrelevant inclusion of inessential identifiers that irritates, but the ostentatious oddity of opinionated onomatopoeia. Honestly!
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I just threw up a little... This Mormon priesthood & temple recommend holder certainly looks forward to having sex with multiple wives in the afterlife...

- VRDRC


You're just jealous of his sharp, cutting prose. :lol:

What a disgusting person Mr. Schryver is, though I'm not sure he qualifies as human. Where's the vomit smiley when you need it?
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EAllusion wrote:Will is a pathological liar in a way that is different from apologetic prevarication many here are accustomed to. It will serve us well to be aware of the difference.


I agree.

I always try to keep in mind that the tone of a person's posts may not fairly reflect that person's character and personality away from the internet. We all tend to use internet communication in a slightly different way than the manner in which we communicate otherwise. But sometimes you see a poster who keeps demonstrating certain characteristics that are disturbing, beyond the normal venting of the internet. Will is one of those people. He just reeks of narcissism. (see also Darth and Cam's quotes)
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:After having boasted that several women have thrown themselves at him over the years, Mr. Schryver muses what the next life may bring...

William the Conqueror wrote: Believe me, I’m looking forward to it. As you can well imagine, there is nothing an alpha male desires quite as much as a fecund field in which to plant his seed.


I just threw up a little... This Mormon priesthood & temple recommend holder certainly looks forward to having sex with multiple wives in the afterlife...

- VRDRC


Statements like this are why I believe Will was lying through his teeth when he claimed his wife always read his posts prior to him posting on this board.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

Penn & Teller

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