The sex thread

[_Moniker]

For people who practice pre-marital chastity and mongamy, 2 is getting there. 3 is definitely promiscuous.

At one time?

I would think to get more bang for your buck you should definitely just do em all at once. Just get it over with, dontcha think?

[_Trevor]

I would think to get more bang for your buck you should definitely just do em all at once. Just get it over with, dontcha think?

I'm all about value.

[Dr. Sunstoned]

Well most of the men that frequented the clubs were married. So, I'm guessing they weren't really promiscuous. I know I've been with the "average" number of men in my lifetime and most of my relationships were long term, for the most part. 3+ years to the longest being 9 years. Anyway, enough about me. What's up with the guys?

I've now been married 22 years. No averages for me (the first lasted only four and one half years, but that woman was much more like Harmony...)

[_Jason Bourne]

I get the sense that many church leaders see sex as a necessary evil sort of thing. Not anything to be encouraged, discussed, embraced, enjoyed but a instinct that must be accomodated once in a while.

And you TD, like Harmony and some others here, are full of holy high h****s*** (I do believe that's the first time I've ever used profanity on this board). Stuff it you tendentious little twit. The Church does not teach any such thing about sex and its purpose. In fact, its beauty and fulfilling qualities within the context of marriage between a man and a woman is all I heard growing up. Oh, yes, there is the vary serious counsel against sexual immorality, against the misuse or perversion of sexual desires that is the very spinal fluid of the post sixties cult of eroticism that saturates every nook and cubby hole of our sexually shallow, masturbatory culture, but that's a different matter.

Please, all of you, educate yourselves on LDS culture, philosophy, and teaching or sit down and shut up. There is, apparently, no fool like an anti-Mormon fool.

Hmmm... We must be getting a bit too close to the truth, for Loran to get so defensive that he's stooped to swearing and calling TD a tendentious little twit.

What's the matter, Loran? Did you think your wife was part of the sample?

I must say that at least as an adult hearing youth taught I see an emphasis that sex is a wonderful and beautiful thing in the context of marriage. I have seen lots of leader locally talk about it in this context and tell kids that while they here not to do it now they should not think that it is bad per say but only bad when used inappropriatly out of marriage. I think most of Elder Hollands talk On Souls, Symbols and Sacrament focuses on this as well.

However, as a youth I recall more of the it is really bad teachings and third worst sin stuff. On the other hand I can remember a few talks by Elder Packer when I was young that said sex was a good thing in marriage. I think it would not be hard to find such talks from the 70's.

[_Moniker]

I've now been married 22 years. No averages for me (the first lasted only four and one half years, but that woman was much more like Harmony...)

I wonder if you're married repeatedly in the Church does that count as promiscuity? Or is it only sexual relations outside of marital bonds that count?

[_harmony]

Well most of the men that frequented the clubs were married. So, I'm guessing they weren't really promiscuous. I know I've been with the "average" number of men in my lifetime and most of my relationships were long term, for the most part. 3+ years to the longest being 9 years. Anyway, enough about me. What's up with the guys?

I've now been married 22 years. No averages for me (the first lasted only four and one half years, but that woman was much more like Harmony...)

I've been married for 36 years to the same man. And my Sweet Pickle is nothing like Loran.

[_Jason Bourne]

And while your posing, perhaps you could answer the following questions, selected from the Temple recommend interview (italicized portions are of specific interest):

1. Do you believe in God, the Eternal Father, in his Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost; and do you have a firm testimony of the restored gospel?

2. Do you sustain the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the prophet, seer, and revelator; and do you recognize him as the only person on the earth authorized to exercise all priesthood keys?

3. Do you sustain the other General Authorities and the local authorities of the Church?

4. Do you live the law of chastity?

6. Do you affiliate with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or do you sympathize with the precepts of any such group or individual?

7. Do you earnestly strive to do your duty in the Church; to attend your sacrament, priesthood, and other meetings; and to obey the rules, laws, and commandments of the gospel?

8. Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

9. Are you a full-tithe payer?

10. Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12. If you have received your temple endowment -- (a) Do you keep all the covenants that you made in the temple? (b) Do you wear the authorized garments both day and night?

Sorry Coggy old boy. Harm does not need to answer these questions from you. Challenge her all you want about her church membership status. by the way I am pretty confident she is LDS. Not your down the chapel road LDS but LDS none the less. But you don't get to ask anyone these questions less you are their bishop or SP ( or counselor in an Bric or SPresidency).

[Dr. Sunstoned]

I view it like trying to keep a huge, inflated ball completely immersed in a swimming pool. You can throw yourself on it, push it down as hard as you can, or even pretend it's not there, but it keeps popping back up to the surface regardless. Of course the huge ball (no pun intended, but it's a funny pun now that I notice it) is the human sex drive. When devout Mormons try to push it under, it keeps popping back up. I have frequently noticed that whenever this topic comes up on boards, which it does regularly, a certain number of LDS men are obviously being titillated by it, even while dripping with disdain and judgment.

Here again, is the post sixties Porky's Syndrome: sex is irrepressible, fundamental, and primary. If you try to repress it, it comes bouncing back up again to dominate the psych and feelings. The only out is satiation. If satiation is not achieved, midnight will arrive, and pumpkins will dot the landscape.

Beastie's fantasies have no bearing on reality, are heavily stewed in generational assumptions and ideological nostrums, and otherwise, far too psychologically subjective (perhaps, too self referential) to be of any value. Sex is irrepressible, in a way, but does need to be repressed, as the vast abyss of social pathology spawned by the sexual revolution and the concomitant destruction of the family and the ability of men and woman to form long term committed relationships since the late sixties has demonstrated clearly to all not so far beyond the possibility of serious intellection that the obvious is not...obvious.

OTOH, exLDS often didn't go through the natural stage of sexual exploration as a young adult and seem determined to make up for it.

I'm sure there is a mountain of social science data backing up this claim...

[_Jason Bourne]

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To dance without putting up with smoke and inebriates/drunks was to us a real blessing. WE loved to "Rock", and still do! :-) In those days there was an LDS event "THE Golden Green Ball". A bit pretensious in our Blue-collar city, but for many converts, in the Mission, it did introduce some good-to-knows. And, as I never deny, LDSism does contain, and encourages many good human qualities. What happened to the GGB?

Hey Roger our stake still had an annual G&B Ball. Well this year they canceled it. It is in November and they ran out of money. Our wonderful stake activities person always does a great job at stake activities but she over spent early in the year.

[_Jason Bourne]

Coggins

Sex and sex issues, promiscuity, affairs, illegitimate births and on and on have been arounf forever. The 60s and 70s did not suddenly bring about all this sexual activity. It brought it more into the open but it has been there all along. Not new man.