Where does Gordon live?

[_GoodK]

I checked, and it's possible to obtain addresses for GAs (e.g., Monson) via a "people search" site. The catch is that it would cost (slightly). You could likely find addresses for a number of them relatively cheaply if you subscribed to one of these people search services for a minimal period, and then searched the names that interest you. You could then look up the addresses via the online Salt Lake assessor's database, which you can find just by Googling "salt lake" and "assessor." It will be the first result that pops up.

Wouldn't publishing your address negate the purpose of around the clock secuirity detail? I'd be willing to be as much as either of us can afford that his condo is not listed on people search.

Pres Hinckley lives in a church owned condo in downtown SLC. It is estimates to be worth about 1.5 million but probably has dropped since then as realestate is Utah is on the decline. The Church bought this condo years ago for their church president and he lives there primarily for security reasons and also for assistance with living and health issues as he ages.

I'm not going to say Jason is right, but again you have yet to provide a single reference either. I can take your word, or Jason's I guess, on who owns the condo Gordon lives in. From my experience here, I think I'll take Jason's until compelled by something a little stronger than your imagination.

If the GAs lived in lavish homes, I imagine someone would have discovered this by now, and posted on it endlessly at RfM. (Don't you think?) But if not, perhaps you can be the one to break the story!

Cute, or the church could always just disclose it's financials and dispell all the mystery and imagining surrounding them.

[_the road to hana]

http://www.peoplefinders.com

Try searching for Gordon B. Hinckley in the state of Utah.

Good one. :D

You can also remove the state of Utah from the search parameters to get more addresses within the United States.

[_DonBradley]

Actually...using a free people search site, I just found an address for Thomas S. Monson, born in the appropriate year; and have checked the assessment information on it. (I don't want to be the one posting Thomas S. Monson's address for some nutter out there; so I won't.)

It's assessed at about $450,000. In some areas of the country, this would get you a very impressive home. In Salt Lake, it would not. A small, old home I in which I lived in Millcreek recently sold for $300,000. Monson's home is in the same basic neighborhood (half a mile away), which is only laughably "lavish." The home is likely "nice" by ordinary standards, but not outstanding. While Monson may, perhaps, own other homes elsewhere, he could live much higher on the hog by moving his primary residence up on the hill and making it six times as big.

Don

[_GoodK]

Actually...using a free people search site, I just found an address for Thomas S. Monson, born in the appropriate year; and have checked the assessment information on it. (I don't want to be the one posting Thomas S. Monson's address for some nutter out there; so I won't.)

It's assessed at about $450,000. In some areas of the country, this would get you a very impressive home. In Salt Lake, it would not. A small, old home I in which I lived in Millcreek recently sold for $300,000. Monson's home is in the same basic neighborhood (half a mile away), which is only laughably "lavish." The home is likely "nice" by ordinary standards, but not outstanding. While Monson may, perhaps, own other homes elsewhere, he could live much higher on the hog by moving his primary residence up on the hill and making it six times as big.

Don

The link you sent me does not yield a result for the address provided.

Using Countrywide's software (Landsafe) yielded the value of the home of the address you provided, yet it was not as high as you stated ($392,000) and it did not have an owner listed.

Could this be a red herring?

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[_DonBradley]

I checked, and it's possible to obtain addresses for GAs (e.g., Monson) via a "people search" site. The catch is that it would cost (slightly). You could likely find addresses for a number of them relatively cheaply if you subscribed to one of these people search services for a minimal period, and then searched the names that interest you. You could then look up the addresses via the online Salt Lake assessor's database, which you can find just by Googling "salt lake" and "assessor." It will be the first result that pops up.

Wouldn't publishing your address negate the purpose of around the clock secuirity detail? I'd be willing to bet as much as either of us can afford that his condo is not listed on people search.

Your presumptions are more than a little annoying, GoodK, especially given that you claim to be looking for information.

"PeopleSearch" sites aren't like phone books. They don't list only people who want to be listed. They use a variety of records to obtain information on addresses, other occupants of the home, etc., etc. I've used them to locate people's birth parents for them even when they weren't "listed."

Pres Hinckley lives in a church owned condo in downtown SLC. It is estimates to be worth about 1.5 million but probably has dropped since then as realestate is Utah is on the decline. The Church bought this condo years ago for their church president and he lives there primarily for security reasons and also for assistance with living and health issues as he ages.

For whatever it may be worth to you, GoodK...the church president is always provided an apartment by the church--the same apartment each time. This allows him immediate access to the church offices. The value of the apartment is likely determined largely by its location, rather than by whatever amenities it allows.

If the GAs lived in lavish homes, I imagine someone would have discovered this by now, and posted on it endlessly at RfM. (Don't you think?) But if not, perhaps you can be the one to break the story!

Cute, or the church could always just disclose it's financials and dispell all the mystery and imagining surrounding them.

Better cute than obtuse. Why on earth would the church disclose the General Authorities' personal residence information? How would this be either the same as or required by institutional disclosure? I agree completely that the church should be accountable to its members for its use of funds, and this means it should be financially transparent, disclosing how much it allocates to various purposes, including the stipends of its leaders. But the implication that the church should disclose the value of their homes is preposterous. And it is merely a dodge away from dealing with my argument. If, in fact, the LDS authorities had the sort of lavish homes they could if they took more than a negligible amount of the church's wealth for themselves, we almost certainly would have heard about it. The General Authorities attend local wards, in which they and the locations of their homes are known, and from which rumors of anything really extreme could be spread. And their property records would be indexed, by law, just like everyone else's.

Don

[_DonBradley]

Actually...using a free people search site, I just found an address for Thomas S. Monson, born in the appropriate year; and have checked the assessment information on it. (I don't want to be the one posting Thomas S. Monson's address for some nutter out there; so I won't.)

It's assessed at about $450,000. In some areas of the country, this would get you a very impressive home. In Salt Lake, it would not. A small, old home I in which I lived in Millcreek recently sold for $300,000. Monson's home is in the same basic neighborhood (half a mile away), which is only laughably "lavish." The home is likely "nice" by ordinary standards, but not outstanding. While Monson may, perhaps, own other homes elsewhere, he could live much higher on the hog by moving his primary residence up on the hill and making it six times as big.

Don

The link you sent me does not yield a result for the address provided.

Using Countrywide's software (Landsafe) yielded the value of the home of the address you provided, yet it was not as high as you stated ($392,000) and it did not have an owner listed.

Could this be a red herring?

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I searched for Thomas S. Monson by name at the indicated search site. Then plugged the address into the auditor's search engine. Using the assessor's engine won't work: it will only provide you a listing for a commercial property. However, the link I sent you should have taken you to the exact page for that property address, so I'm confused that you're saying it yields no result for the address.

Also, in this case, I know the property (or another in the same area) is listed in the Salt Lake property records. While I wouldn't know about any of the others, I knew roughly where Monson's property was because a friend had told me after checking the GAs in these records in the late 80s.

So, no, I don't think it's a red herring. Why would it be? You do realize that the GAs live in actual wards, where they deal with actual neighbors? They aren't cloistered in some ivory tower from which they can pretend to live in hovels.

In fact, we had two of the 70 in the Federal Heights Ward when I lived there.

Don

[_DonBradley]

Sorry for getting to caught up in the argument to answer your question. Monson's home was valued at $380,000 in 2006. The figure I cited is the estimated value for 2007, also from the SL auditor's record for the property.

Boyd K. Packer's home is valued at a little over one million for 2006, but the 2007 estimated value jumps to about a million and a quarter.

Henry Eyring's property is in Bountiful, which I believe would be listed in the Davis County records.

I'll be interested in what you're able to ferret out.

Don

[_harmony]

I searched for Thomas S. Monson by name at the indicated search site. Then plugged the address into the auditor's search engine. Using the assessor's engine won't work: it will only provide you a listing for a commercial property. However, the link I sent you should have taken you to the exact page for that property address, so I'm confused that you're saying it yields no result for the address.

Also, in this case, I know the property (or another in the same area) is listed in the Salt Lake property records. While I wouldn't know about any of the others, I knew roughly where Monson's property was because a friend had told me after checking the GAs in these records in the late 80s.

So, no, I don't think it's a red herring. Why would it be? You do realize that the GAs live in actual wards, where they deal with actual neighbors? They aren't cloistered in some ivory tower from which they can pretend to live in hovels.

In fact, we had two of the 70 in the Federal Heights Ward when I lived there.

Don

GoodK struggles with knowing who is sympathetic and who isn't. She sees red herrings, straw men, and dead horses where some of us only see helpful information supplied by reasonable people with real life experience related to her question. Must be difficult to be as isolated as GoodK, seeing irrational, unhelpful, red-herring throwing people behind every keyboard. Sympathy is definitely in order.

[_DonBradley]

Thanks Harmony. As you know, I've been away from the boards a while, and don't know the new faces (if faces is the word I want), and of course am not know by them either.

I'll cut GoodK some slack---in exchange for same. (Deal?) :)

Don

[_harmony]

Thanks Harmony. As you know, I've been away from the boards a while, and don't know the new faces (if faces is the word I want), and of course am not know by them either.

I'll cut GoodK some slack---in exchange for same. (Deal?) :)

Don

Welcome back. I missed you.