Franktalk wrote:But the man who casts the world aside and takes no desires with him on his inward journey receives the spirit of truth.
And since he has no desires, he is not passionate, and since he is not passionate, god spews him out of his mouth for being lukewarm.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
spotlight wrote:Well I guess be grateful then that you don't live in the days of Joseph Smith and weren't called upon to give him your wife.
We still excommunicate those that publicly claim the prophet has fallen. My wife has more say in that than I do.
Does this mean that if you knew Joseph Smith was married to other men's wives you'd think he was fallen or does this mean that publically saying he was not justified in taking other men's wives is grounds for excommunication?
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
You have to climb a ladder before you can fall from one.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
The CCC wrote:True, and ladders are useful things to have when you need one.
Unfortunately they break under the weight of thirty women.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
Well 140 lbs average weight for a woman times 30 takes us past 4,000 pounds. A quick google search doesn't show any ladders capable of that kind of load. Even spending $1,000 will get you to only 450lbs capacity. Maybe if they weighed 15lbs each? Add to the argument that you need 31 steps minimum and ladders were built of wood in Joseph's day... I think I win.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
The world as used in Scripture is not the earth. I don't have a problem with the earth. God saw that it was very good. We are to be in the world, but not of the world. Some what we mortals do to it and to ourselves isn't so good.
If we artificially restrict this discussion to just subjective feelings then there is no difference. It makes little, to no difference to me what people believe about God, as long as they treat me, and mine, with respect, and a certain amount of human dignity.
Maksutov wrote:What does "cast the world aside" mean?
So how is your reading of the scriptures anything but "receiving your own subjective feelings back at you"?
Casting out the world is letting go of any influence from any source. Traditions of our fathers, out. Scholarly knowledge. out. Perceived reality, out. When I first started my inward path I let go of everything. I let go of the physical world, if I live in a simulation I was ready to accept it. I let go of the knowledge of science. I was ready to hear that the physical world is created and the forces which govern it were created as well. I let go of family and society. I let go of religion and any view of an afterlife. The only thing I held onto was a quest for truth no matter what is was.
On my first quest all I got back was this universe is real and not created. Over time I just knew something was true when exposed to it. I also knew when things were false. I was surprised how much scripture is false. Took a while to figure that out.
