Leftist Starbucks finds itself in the sites of liberal ire

[_Res Ipsa]

According to a witness, after the friend arrived, he suggested that the three of them just go elsewhere. One of officers said “it’s too late for that.” I think that was a lost opportunity, especially given the larger context of relations between the police and black folks in Philadelphia.

possibly.

I totally agree that if there was any sign the guys were willing to pack it up and go their way before making the arrest, then that's what should have happened. Especially given all the customers were on their side. But to be completely thorough, we'd have to rule out whether or not there are mandatory arrest laws in that area that cover that particular situation. I kinda doubt it, but a huge stimulus for cops is CYA, and if there was a risk of getting in trouble for letting them go, then what?

The police commissioner said they had no policy that addressed this situation, so I doubt there was a mandatory arrest statute or policy. If there had been, I think someone would have cited it by now. The only context I’m aware of mandatory arrest statutes applying is domestic assault. Does California use them in other contexts?

[_Jersey Girl]

I'm going to use bold to show you precisely what I was responding to in your post.

Did the manager have a personal interaction with those other customers? Was she aware that customers were being allowed to use the restroom? Was she reacting to one of her employees setting the scenario up for her, in that the gentlemen asked to use the bathroom, refused to purchase anything, and acted out?

The fact that you and others on this thread are just champing at the bit to crucify this poor woman who was clearly put in a difficult position not only in that particular instance, but every_single_day strikes me as hollow and perverse.

- Doc

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Did you catch that? Okay, here's how I responded to it.

Well, I changed my position right on the thread but who really gives a damn.

I responded by pointing out that not everyone on the thread was trying to crucify the woman and that I had actually changed my mind and position on the thread and then you replied by talking about EA because he acts like a dick.

It's kind of hard to parse out responses to individual posters, especially when arguments are had in bad faith or require an extraordinary amount of googling just to prove a silly and stupid aside, like, for example, that the manager was racist for calling 911 in a city where you're literally encouraged by the Philadelphia PD to call 911 if someone's dog is crapping. It's even more absurd when EA will continue to argue the 911 point because some bum “F” municipality has some differing guidance regarding 911 calls.

How can anyone take someone seriously when they, the latter, can't fathom being wrong?

- Doc

Good enough. Screw me. I get it. I'm not even here. Carry on.

[_EAllusion]

Doc is in this thread repeatedly calling posters names unprovoked, accusing them of vicious misogyny based on nothing, and generally offering the most transparent troll-job in a while. Jersey Girl's take on this is that he's just expressing an honest difference of an opinion and getting caught up in *me* acting like a dick.

[_Themis]

What the hell. He hates EAllusion too much? That's it? That's the best you can come up with? He couldn't have a strong difference of opinion? He couldn't defend his position against opposing opinions or disrespect the guy?

No, he hates the guy.

God, you people some days, I swear.

You have been around long enough to know he goes after EA unfairly all the time.

[_Jersey Girl]

Doc is in this thread repeatedly calling posters names unprovoked, accusing them of vicious misogyny based on nothing, and generally offering the most transparent troll-job in a while. Jersey Girl's take on this is that he's just expressing an honest difference of an opinion and getting caught up in *me* acting like a dick.

Do me a favor and leave me out of your feud with him. I have not a damn thing to do with it. My comments had to do with the fact that my posts and position shift on the thread are going largely ignored and it's gotten to the point where it's laughable.

I challenged Themis usage of the word "hate" because it's adolescent. I said you acted like a dick because that's how I summarized his comments and--because you do. That doesn't mean that Cam isn't acting like a dick, it simply means that within the context of my response, I made an off hand comment regarding you because he was complaining about you.

But your take is that "Oh Jersey is ragging on me because Jersey is on Cam's side like his crap doesn't stink and he's calling everyone names." Lord, get out of the sandbox. I've taught 4 year olds who are less egocentric than you are.

The two of you are giving Rosebud a run for her money but please don't stop. It's at least a mildly amusing read (if not a little redundant) whereas she's completely psycho.

[_Jersey Girl]

What the hell. He hates EAllusion too much? That's it? That's the best you can come up with? He couldn't have a strong difference of opinion? He couldn't defend his position against opposing opinions or disrespect the guy?

No, he hates the guy.

God, you people some days, I swear.

You have been around long enough to know he goes after EA unfairly all the time.

What a stupid childish thing to say.

[_Themis]

Did the manager have a personal interaction with those other customers? Was she aware that customers were being allowed to use the restroom? Was she reacting to one of her employees setting the scenario up for her, in that the gentlemen asked to use the bathroom, refused to purchase anything, and acted out?

Good questions, but your posts don't suggest you really want to know them before you have taken a side.

The fact that you and others on this thread are just champing at the bit to crucify this poor woman who was clearly put in a difficult position not only in that particular instance, but every_single_day strikes me as hollow and perverse.

- Doc

If you would be more open minded and actually read my posts you would know I haven't taken a side or tried to crucify her. In fact I have said more then once some people like you have been have taken a side without really having all the facts and seem to be giving certain evidence a lot of weight while ignoring other evidence.

[_Themis]

What a stupid childish thing to say.

LOL Well maybe I need to say childish things when talking to a child.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

So, basically we can summarize the incident thusly:



- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

So, basically we can summarize the incident thusly:



- Doc

You can summarize it that way. You can also summarize that the race card was pulled because the men are black and white non-payers were allowed to use the restroom without question.

Then you have the alleged swearing. Possible escalation. And it breaks down from that point on.

So far as we know...