beastie wrote:Too funny. DCP is still using the Wisconsin reference, despite its debunking.
And Zak naïvely asks:
Dr. Petersen... Is the Spencer Lake skull the one you where citing in the video?
It gets even better. Zak is claiming a second horse skull. His evidence? A statement on an Internet message board from an Economics professor, in other words an amateur archaeologist. But as someone helpfully pointed out, the skull that is supposed to be the real one has already been dated and pronounced a recent skull. But let's keep grasping those straws.
Who Knows wrote:Is this the same steven jones as the 9/11 conspiracy theorist nutjob?
Which of his ideas are nutjob-ish?
Wasn't he fired by BYU?
Yes, unfortunately.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Who Knows wrote:Is this the same steven jones as the 9/11 conspiracy theorist nutjob?
Which of his ideas are nutjob-ish?
The fact that 9/11 was a conspiracy - an inside job.
What, are you a 9/11 conspiracy theorist?
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
Who Knows wrote:The fact that 9/11 was a conspiracy - an inside job.
I was talking about his documentation of the thermite cuts in the support beams.
What, are you a 9/11 conspiracy theorist?
To an extent. I think it's clear that someone knew the planes were coming and made sure the buildings fell, but who is up for debate.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Who Knows wrote:The fact that 9/11 was a conspiracy - an inside job.
I was talking about his documentation of the thermite cuts in the support beams.
What, are you a 9/11 conspiracy theorist?
To an extent. I think it's clear that someone knew the planes were coming and made sure the buildings fell, but who is up for debate.
Sure, there are some unanswered questions, but I haven't read anything that provides evidence that it was an inside job.
Sorry, i'm not really up for a debate. I read a lot about it maybe a year or so ago. I don't really have an interest in re-hashing it all. Unless there's anything new?
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
Who Knows wrote:The fact that 9/11 was a conspiracy - an inside job.
I was talking about his documentation of the thermite cuts in the support beams.
I don't believe his paper was ever published in an applicable peer-reviewed scientific journal. Additionally, he faced opposition to his ideas from professors at BYU in more relevant fields (engineering) - which i believe led to his departure.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
If you don't want to look like a ignorant conspiracy theorist yourself Dr. Shades, I suggest you keep that opinion close to your chest. These things have habit of damaging one's general credibility in the minds of others.
Horses are now being discussed in another thread, and cdowis has repeated the same poor argument he's been making for years:
QUOTE(cdowis @ Jan 10 2008, 08:22 AM) *
We have dealt with this in detail elsewhere. Bottom line, mesoamerica does not lend itself to extensive travel with chariots -- rainforests, mountains, rivers, etc.
I dispensed this bit of nonsense on my website, but my larger point is that each time cdowis made this assertion on Z, a critic would demonstrate to him that he was incorrect. My god, even Sorenson talked about one area in particular in the Book of Mormon and why it was so conducive to horse warfare. And yet none of it registers with him at all! It's like DCP reading the debunking of the Wisconsin skull and yet still using it as evidence. What's up with this? Is it that their minds are helpfully "erasing" damaging information without their conscious awareness, or are they deliberately ignoring information that contradicts their assertions?
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
It amazes me that even when some apologists are clearly shown they have misused information, (I'm being polite here), used an example that has shown to be erroneous, used an argument that has been completely debunked, they often still use their "evidence" as if it is meaningful.
It astounds me.
I have wondered if they do this on purpose? It is not as if they do not realize their mistake. Or is there something that just can't accept that they are wrong? Are they holding to their arguments so tightly that they just can't let go of their "evidence".
Regardless, I think this practice of holding on and repeating debunked arguments is one of the reasons more and more people are distrusting apologists.
~dancer~
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj