William Schryver wrote:Frankly, although you characterize what you are about to write as a "third" and "more likely possibility," I can detect no substantive difference between his offenses as you describe them, and the simple combination (as Runtu suggested above) of mendacity and ineptitude. If Gee is guilty of the things you charge him with, then his professional integrity is also potentially in question; certainly his professional reputation.
If you really want to make this debate about how Gee's colleagues view his gibberish Book of Abraham writings, then be our guest. If you can find a single non-Mormon, non-impaired Egyptologist who won't testify "LOL" to the Book of Abraham inanity, then you'll have achieved a major coup.
I know you're a damned evil apostate, but sometimes you still make me laugh
Actually, in some perverse way, I think there may actually be something funny about being a damned evil apostate.
Let me work on this for a while...
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
And anyway Runtu, thanks for those kind words about me a few posts back. I had no intention of ever coming back here again, except to kick the anthill now and then, but this whole GoodK/DCP thing has just about frosted me.
I came here yesterday in a kind of foul mood, which I shouldn't allow to rub off on others.
Sorry.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Droopy, you've never answered the most salient lingering question about Gee's Book of Abraham apologetics:
Why don't you shut up and go get laid?
I'm a Latter Day Saint and I'm married.
Is that sufficient?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
The simplest explanation for the Book of Abraham mistranslation is, BY FAR, that Joseph Smith didn't know what the hell he was doing, couldn't translate Egyptian papyrus, and was not a prophet of God. Only a damn fool would persist in thinking otherwise, and only a damn fool would waste his life coming up with lame-assed alternative theories.
Gone from the arena of ideas yet again. To the concession stand? No. John Mill is participating in a tailgate party in the parking lot.
If you ever do desire to enter that arena and participate in a substantive discussion within it, please, be our guest.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
I believe a third, more likely possibility is that Gee's reasoning with respect to the Book of Abraham is severely impaired by confirmation bias.
This has now apparently become the default dismissal of both Gee and William when substantive counter evidence and argument dries up. I've already encountered it time and time again here.
Instead of psychological hypothesis regarding Gee's internal mental states, why not just stick with the evidence at hand?
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
The simplest explanation for the Book of Abraham mistranslation is, BY FAR, that Joseph Smith didn't know what the hell he was doing, couldn't translate Egyptian papyrus, and was not a prophet of God. Only a damn fool would persist in thinking otherwise, and only a damn fool would waste his life coming up with lame-assed alternative theories.
Gone from the arena of ideas yet again. To the concession stand? No. John Mill is participating in a tailgate party in the parking lot.
If you ever do desire to enter that arena and participate in a substantive discussion within it, please, be our guest.
You can either exhibit defenses of Joseph Smith's "translation" of Egyptian papyri, or you can have substantive discussion, but you can't do both at the same time.
How is this Book of Abraham idiocy any more credible than Heaven's Gate claim that there was a spaceship in the tail of a comet?
I believe a third, more likely possibility is that Gee's reasoning with respect to the Book of Abraham is severely impaired by confirmation bias.
This has now apparently become the default dismissal of both Gee and William when substantive counter evidence and argument dries up. I've already encountered it time and time again here.
Instead of psychological hypothesis regarding Gee's internal mental states, why not just stick with the evidence at hand?
That's exactly what's going on. The evidence at hand in favor of Joseph Smith's translation of the papyri is so lacking as to constitute affirmative evidence for the insanity, insincerity, or gullibility of the people who continue to believe it.