Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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_Gadianton
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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The Church of Satan, LaVey's satanism, is a counter-culture version of Ayn Rand's extreme individualism. It's atheistic. It's not real satanism, something that real satanists are quick to point out, and so it's quite impossible for you to know much about any kind of satanism. Sorry.

But none of this actually matters, as the real issue is whether the said organization is part of a Jewish conspiracy. You could start here: there are several kinds of establishments that are known to be ran by Italian mafia or Chinese mafia or Greek mafia etc., and so it's not out of the question that a Jewish organization of some kind could control a certain kind of venue. But from there, you'd need to generalize from mob, to something more central to the culture, to racial itself as for you, being Jewish is a racial not a cultural phenomena, which is going to be really difficult. But as I said, for the sake of this thread, I'm not looking for evidence, I just want the brazen story behind it.

But guess what? There is no story at all. You cannot point to anything on the entire Internet that even attempts to tell such a story, because the meme was so hyperbolic, that it didn't even refer to actual existing conspiracies about Jews, and you know that, and as such, you know the degree of bad faith in which you posted the Loxism meme.

not sure what you mean by "duck dock go" or whatever. i would rather you explain these things, not doc cam. but you probably can't even explain that.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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Gadianton wrote:The Church of Satan, LaVey's satanism, is a counter-culture version of Ayn Rand's extreme individualism.


citation needed


It's atheistic. It's not real satanism,


False dichotomy

something that real satanists are quick to point out,


Appeal to purity, or the No True Scotsman fallacy.

and so it's quite impossible for you to know much about any kind of satanism. Sorry.


Bad faith.

I knew enough to school you on the founders of the Church of Satan and Temple of Satan being Jews. I offered to discuss the Podesta version of Satanism but you wanted to zero in on the Church of Satan.

But none of this actually matters, as the real issue is whether the said organization is part of a Jewish conspiracy. You could start here:


While noting your weasel-word “conspiracy” I will gladly start there. We’ve established that both the Church of Satan and Temple of Satan were founded and are run by Jews, that “being Jewish informs their Satanism,” and so let’s now discuss the other more sinister kind of Satanism as you shift the goal posts.

To do this I think first we need to establish some basic context, define some terms, and discuss what a meme is and what the message of the Loxism meme is meant to convey.

I just need to decide on if I should title our new thread “Loxism” or “Jewish Satanism” — any suggestions?


there are several kinds of establishments that are known to be ran by Italian mafia or Chinese mafia or Greek mafia etc., and so it's not out of the question that a Jewish organization of some kind could control a certain kind of venue. But from there, you'd need to generalize from mob, to something more central to the culture, to racial itself as for you, being Jewish is a racial not a cultural phenomena, which is going to be really difficult.


More bad faith.

But as I said, for the sake of this thread, I'm not looking for evidence, I just want the brazen story behind it.

But guess what? There is no story at all. You cannot point to anything on the entire Internet that even attempts to tell such a story, because the meme was so hyperbolic, that it didn't even refer to actual existing conspiracies about Jews, and you know that, and as such, you know the degree of bad faith in which you posted the Loxism meme.

not sure what you mean by "duck dock go" or whatever. i would rather you explain these things, not doc cam. but you probably can't even explain that.


DocCam’s schtick has been to follow me around and post memes harvested from 4chan as ad hoc explanations for whatever I’m posting and to dishonestly imply plagiarism.

I don’t want to take that joy from him, but you can google terms like “my sides are in orbit” and “Shrek Cringe Folder” if you want to get a head start. Honestly, I just forgot I was talking to an anti-Mormon Boomer and not someone familiar with Internet culture. Apologies.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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smo:

We’ve established that both the Church of Satan and Temple of Satan were founded and are run by Jews, that “being Jewish informs their Satanism,”

No WE haven’t, nor have you. Go back and read the tiny newspaper article again you seem to be basing your “schooling” on.
smo:

and to dishonestly imply plagiarism.


Wrong again. You are a plagiarizer, and it was proven.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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smokey wrote:you wanted to zero in on the Church of Satan


I zeroed in on the claim of the Loxism meme. You appear to have difficulties understanding what the meme says. The meme says, "The Church of Satan". If it meant "Satanism" in general, then it would have simply read "Satanism". Unless, of course, the author of the meme didn't know the difference. Which given the general ignorance of denier culture, is a real possibility.

Once again: You have not explained how the Church of Satan is a plot by Jews that is ran by Jews, specifically for corrupting the Aryan race. For the purpose of this thread, I'm not asking for proof, I just want to read the story behind it. I've even said I'm willing to go either way on this one: Give the story of Satanism in general, or give it about the Church of Satan in particular. If you choose the former, then since you don't believe the later is distinct, you will need to give a general story about Satanism's origin as a Jewish plot that also includes LaVey's Church of Satan.

I do not believe such a story exists.

Do you consider yourself a hacker? I'll bet you don't know much about computers.
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Re: Should Everything Wrong Be Illegal?

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EAllusion wrote:Adultery comes to mind as a good example of something where that are at least forms of it that are clearly morally wrong


It is not a good example. Affairs can be good for your mental and physical health.

Testosterone is most often associated with sex drive, and plays a vital role in sperm production. It also affects bone and muscle mass, the way men store fat in the body, and even red blood cell production. A man’s testosterone levels can also affect his mood. Low testosterone levels, also called low T levels, can produce a variety of symptoms in men, including: weight gain

https://www.healthline.com/health/what-is-testosterone

Having an affair can help increase your testosterone.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/1 ... 1501300116
https://www.apa.org/monitor/dec06/testosterone

So adultery is not "clearly morally wrong", it is debatable. Like I said before,

DoubtingThomas wrote:actions that can cause bodily injury or PTSD to others (or to most people) should clearly be illegal. We can debate about the rest because there is no god to guide us.
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