CaliforniaKid wrote:"Some people say a person receives a position in this church through revelation, and others say they get it through inspiration, but I say they get it through relation. If I hadn't been related to Heber C. Kimball I wouldn't have been a damn thing in this church." - J. Golden Kimball
The aside joke to that is that when Spencer Kimball was called, he was shocked. He thought the leaders would never risk another Kimball in the leadership after J. Golden. (insert smiley here)
I've always liked that quote from J. Golden. Of course, Joseph Smith prophesied that Frederick G. Williams's posterity would be great leaders in the church; and my patriarchal blessing says I'll serve in the highest quorums of the priesthood.
Runtu wrote:Of course, Joseph Smith prophesied that Frederick G. Williams's posterity would be great leaders in the church; and my patriarchal blessing says I'll serve in the highest quorums of the priesthood.
I'm still waiting for the call. ;)
You should know my reply to that, Run. After all, I'm a "predictable mopologist".
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Runtu wrote:Of course, Joseph Smith prophesied that Frederick G. Williams's posterity would be great leaders in the church; and my patriarchal blessing says I'll serve in the highest quorums of the priesthood.
I'm still waiting for the call. ;)
You should know my reply you that, Run. After all, I'm a "predictable mopologist".
charity wrote:If it makes you all feel good to think that it is all cronism, go right ahead. There is plenty of work to do in the kingdom. And the worker is worthy of his hire.
Doesn't make me feel good or bad. It just is what it is: an old-boys network made of prominent families and social and business connections. Always has been since the days when the Smith and Whitmer families ran everything.
And there was time when leaders-in-the-middle have been whining about to be too many Smiths in the highest leadership.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
charity wrote:If it makes you all feel good to think that it is all cronism, go right ahead. There is plenty of work to do in the kingdom. And the worker is worthy of his hire.
Nah, 'cronism' would only be accurate if they were old women instead of old men. ^_^
Runtu wrote:Doesn't make me feel good or bad. It just is what it is: an old-boys network made of prominent families and social and business connections. Always has been since the days when the Smith and Whitmer families ran everything.
Don't forget: Bednar named a building after Gordon B. Hinckley, and presto! Instant apostleship.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"