KimberlyAnn wrote:My Bishop paid a visit to my home after an earlier interview with me wherein I had informed him I no longer believed Mormonism was "true".
Such information was, he said, unnecessary.
Kimberly Ann
I heard about them when I was a deacon or a teacher, perhaps earlier. Where were you? Catching the latest sports score out in the parking lot? We do teach all of D&C 132 by the way.GIVE UP THE ARGUMENT that we should have learned this stuff when we were deacons. See my post above re Oaks admitting it was suppressed. You now have permission to stop arguing the utter ridiculousness you are arguing, as your leader has admitted the obvious SO NOW YOU CAN TOO. Geez. It is so facially absurd to argue that ALL of DC 132 is taught to the youth. There was a lesson on it two weeks ago and guess what? The lesson left out everything from 132 re plural marriage. Huh. Wonder why. Give me a break. Yes, I am active, yes a High Priest, yes go to church every week, etc. BUT STILL SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE ARGUING WITH THE UTTERLY OBVIOUS.
President Wilford Woodruff, who was closely associated with the Prophet Joseph Smith, said: “Emma Smith, the widow of the Prophet, is said to have maintained to her dying moments that her husband had nothing to do with the patriarchal order of marriage, but that it was Brigham Young that got that up. I bear record before God, angels and men that Joseph Smith received that revelation, and I bear record that Emma Smith gave her husband in marriage to several women while he was living, some of whom are to-day living in this city, and some may be present in this congregation, and who, if called upon, would confirm my words. But lo and behold, we hear of publication after publication now-a-days, declaring that Joseph Smith had nothing to do with these things. Joseph Smith himself organized every endowment in our Church and revealed the same to the Church, and he lived to receive every key of the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods from the hands of the men who held them while in the flesh, and who hold them in eternity.” (In Journal of Discourses, 23:131.)
Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Section 132 Marriage: An Eternal Covenant
I repeat, the argument is not about whether the church suppresses, as that is a settled issue despite the ignorance of some.
bcspace wrote:Yes, the ignorance of some who never were members of the LDS Church or if they were, never attented or paid any attention at all in class.
bcspace wrote:I heard about them when I was a deacon or a teacher, perhaps earlier. Where were you? Catching the latest sports score out in the parking lot? We do teach all of D&C 132 by the way.GIVE UP THE ARGUMENT that we should have learned this stuff when we were deacons. See my post above re Oaks admitting it was suppressed. You now have permission to stop arguing the utter ridiculousness you are arguing, as your leader has admitted the obvious SO NOW YOU CAN TOO. Geez. It is so facially absurd to argue that ALL of DC 132 is taught to the youth. There was a lesson on it two weeks ago and guess what? The lesson left out everything from 132 re plural marriage. Huh. Wonder why. Give me a break. Yes, I am active, yes a High Priest, yes go to church every week, etc. BUT STILL SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE ARGUING WITH THE UTTERLY OBVIOUS.
From the same manual seminary students are taught out of: Read and weep....President Wilford Woodruff, who was closely associated with the Prophet Joseph Smith, said: “Emma Smith, the widow of the Prophet, is said to have maintained to her dying moments that her husband had nothing to do with the patriarchal order of marriage, but that it was Brigham Young that got that up. I bear record before God, angels and men that Joseph Smith received that revelation, and I bear record that Emma Smith gave her husband in marriage to several women while he was living, some of whom are to-day living in this city, and some may be present in this congregation, and who, if called upon, would confirm my words. But lo and behold, we hear of publication after publication now-a-days, declaring that Joseph Smith had nothing to do with these things. Joseph Smith himself organized every endowment in our Church and revealed the same to the Church, and he lived to receive every key of the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods from the hands of the men who held them while in the flesh, and who hold them in eternity.” (In Journal of Discourses, 23:131.)
Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Section 132 Marriage: An Eternal CovenantI repeat, the argument is not about whether the church suppresses, as that is a settled issue despite the ignorance of some.
Yes, the ignorance of some who never were members of the LDS Church or if they were, never attented or paid any attention at all in class.
Yes, the ignorance of some who never were members of the LDS Church or if they were, never attented or paid any attention at all in class.I paid attention. In fact, I paid attention enough to know that Deacons do not go to Seminary. Sorry, BCSpace, but your quote from the Seminary manual is not evidence that Joseph Smith's polygamy should be known to Deacons.
I heard about them when I was a deacon or a teacher, perhaps earlier. Where were you? Catching the latest sports score out in the parking lot? We do teach all of D&C 132 by the way.
bcspace wrote:Yes, the ignorance of some who never were members of the LDS Church or if they were, never attented or paid any attention at all in class.I paid attention. In fact, I paid attention enough to know that Deacons do not go to Seminary. Sorry, BCSpace, but your quote from the Seminary manual is not evidence that Joseph Smith's polygamy should be known to Deacons.
Another typical ignoramus it would seem except that antiMormons smartly tell half-truths to make their conclusions plausible. Compare what I actually said to what KA is implying....I heard about them when I was a deacon or a teacher, perhaps earlier. Where were you? Catching the latest sports score out in the parking lot? We do teach all of D&C 132 by the way.
KA also knows that teachers are 14 and 15 years old and do go to seminary. Of course, that inconvenient fact destroys her argument but she also knows that this is another page and it is unlikely you will look back to the previous page.
KA is KO'd.
GIVE UP THE ARGUMENT that we should have learned this stuff when we were deacons.