Satan? What's His Role?

Post by **_Coggins7** » Mon May 05, 2008 1:32 am

The term Devil literaly means slanderer.

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Post by **_Gazelam** » Mon May 05, 2008 3:22 am

I'm not saying he wasn't removed after, Gaz. I'm saying he was conspiring before, recruiting before. Are you saying conspiring against God is okay? That God allowed that sort of evil in his presence?

The choice of choosing to accept or reject the plan of salvation was ofered up to everyone there. It was discussed and choices were made. Up until that point Lucifer was apparently standing shoulder to shoulder with the noble and great ones.

In case youve forgotten, Adolf Hitler and the Gary Ridgeway were there as well. At some point we all have to make a choice as to where we are going to stand on an issue.

Post by **_harmony** » Mon May 05, 2008 4:02 am

Gazelam wrote:
I'm not saying he wasn't removed after, Gaz. I'm saying he was conspiring before, recruiting before. Are you saying conspiring against God is okay? That God allowed that sort of evil in his presence?

The choice of choosing to accept or reject the plan of salvation was ofered up to everyone there. It was discussed and choices were made. Up until that point Lucifer was apparently standing shoulder to shoulder with the noble and great ones.

Not possible. One is not "shoulder to shoulder" when one is conspiring to usurp one's father. That is basic evil, Gaz. You know this, you just won't admit it because it makes your tidy world chaotic. Because there's a disconnect... God cannot abide evil, yet Satan was conspiring, planning, plotting, recruiting while he was in God's presence.

Another one of Joseph's mistakes.

Good grief.

In case you've forgotten, Adolf Hitler and the Gary Ridgeway were there as well. At some point we all have to make a choice as to where we are going to stand on an issue.

So? They chose to stand apart from Satan. Guess his recruiting didn't work so well in the pre-existence as it did here.

Post by **_Coggins7** » Mon May 05, 2008 4:04 am

harmony wrote:
Gazelam wrote:
I'm not saying he wasn't removed after, Gaz. I'm saying he was conspiring before, recruiting before. Are you saying conspiring against God is okay? That God allowed that sort of evil in his presence?

The choice of choosing to accept or reject the plan of salvation was ofered up to everyone there. It was discussed and choices were made. Up until that point Lucifer was apparently standing shoulder to shoulder with the noble and great ones.

Not possible. One is not "shoulder to shoulder" when one is conspiring to usurp one's father. That is basic evil, Gaz. You know this, you just won't admit it because it makes your tidy world chaotic. Because there's a disconnect... God cannot abide evil, yet while Satan was conspiring, planning, plotting, recruiting while he was in God's presence.

Another one of Joseph's mistakes.

Good grief.

In case you've forgotten, Adolf Hitler and the Gary Ridgeway were there as well. At some point we all have to make a choice as to where we are going to stand on an issue.

So? They chose to stand apart from Satan. Guess his recruiting didn't work so well in the pre-existence as it did here.

Not only should you try to enjoy the daylight Harmony, you should take a basic course in critical thinking at your local community college. A mind is a terrible thing to waste...

Post by **_harmony** » Mon May 05, 2008 4:08 am

Coggins7 wrote:Not only should you try to enjoy the daylight Harmony, you should take a basic course in critical thinking at your local community college. A mind is a terrible thing to waste...

Hmmm. You mean I shouldn't accept the offer they made for me to teach at my university?

Dang, it's a good thing I have you to give me advice, Loran.

Post by **_Trevor** » Mon May 05, 2008 4:12 am

harmony wrote:Hmmm. You mean I shouldn't accept the offer they made for me to teach at my university?

Dang, it's a good thing I have you to give me advice, Loran.

In CoggyWorld, women can take a few classes, but they should not have careers and do things like teach in universities. At best they should have crappy part-time jobs, but only to support their families if daddy is too lame to do it by himself. At least, if CoggyWorld is anything like the Church he doesn't attend.

Post by **_Gazelam** » Mon May 05, 2008 4:37 am

Harmony,

Not possible. One is not "shoulder to shoulder" when one is conspiring to usurp one's father. That is basic evil, Gaz. You know this, you just won't admit it because it makes your tidy world chaotic. Because there's a disconnect... God cannot abide evil, yet Satan was conspiring, planning, plotting, recruiting while he was in God's presence.

Another one of Joseph's mistakes.

Good grief.

I swear, I don't know whether to cry or laugh when I read your posts. Are you honestly trying to tell me that you think the story of Lucifer is from Joseph Smith?

Go back to my first post on this thread where I link to my Old Son of the Morning post from the Celestial Forum. I give a full retelling of the story of Lucifer, complete with all the Bible refrences.