Is this true?

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Re: Is this true?

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Gazelam wrote:
tumult wrote:Bruce R. McConkie made this statement: "In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his followers through peep stones or crystal balls" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pp.565-66).

I pulled this from a post at another LDS information website.


The full entry:

PEEP STONES

See Devil, Revelation, Urim and Thummim. In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his followers through peep stones or crystal balls. An instance of this copying of the true order occured in the early days of this dispensation. Hiram Page had such a stone and was professing to have revelations for the upbuilding of Zion and governing of the Church. Oliver Cowdery and some others were wrongly influenced thereby in consequence of which Oliver was commanded by revelation: "Thou shalt take thy brother, Hiram Page, between him and thee alone, and tell him that those things which he hath written from that stone are not of me, and that Satan hath deceived him." (D&C 28:11)


if that is the quote then isn't he leaving something out - something that might cause people to search further into the facts such as Joseph had such a stone.
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Re: Is this true?

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tumult wrote:
Gazelam wrote:
tumult wrote:Bruce R. McConkie made this statement: "In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his followers through peep stones or crystal balls" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pp.565-66).

I pulled this from a post at another LDS information website.
The full entry:
PEEP STONES
See Devil, Revelation, Urim and Thummim.
...(D&C 28:11)

if that is the quote then isn't he leaving something out - something that might cause people to search further into the facts such as Joseph had such a stone.

Is it from the Mormon Doctrine? Unfortunately, that book is not available in electronic form. One of my member friend has it but I can not borrow it permanently ....

Searching the words "peep stone" at http://scriptures.LDS.org, the answer is
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Ludwig,

You should get a copy. It is available at Deseret Book. It will be an invaluable resource to you.

http://deseretbook.com/store/product?sku=0190509
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Bruce R. McConkie made this statement: "In imitation of the true order of heaven whereby seers receive revelations from God through a Urim and Thummim, the devil gives his own revelations to some of his followers through peep stones or crystal balls" (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, pp.565-66)



Regardless of what McConkie said, would it not be better if we all got stoned?

Urim and Thummim, eh? What about the stones in the Church vault?
I think that Elder McConkie never suspected that more information would
eventually come to light to put one more hole in the reliability of his Doctrine.
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moksha wrote:Regardless of what McConkie said, would it not be better if we all got stoned?


Amen to that, brother moksha.
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Trevor wrote:
moksha wrote:Regardless of what McConkie said, would it not be better if we all got stoned?


Amen to that, brother moksha.


Just when I was standign up for the dissaffected and saying that they were not laden with sin...tsk tsk.

potheads.
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Gazelam wrote:Just when I was standign up for the dissaffected and saying that they were not laden with sin...tsk tsk.

potheads.


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Brackite wrote:Hello,
Well, I think and I believe that the Pro-Polygamy revelation, Doctrine and Covenants Section 132, could've have been a 'Revelation' from the devil. Doctrine and Covenants Section 132 is in pretty very much in direct Contradiction to Jacob Chapter Two, in the Book of Mormon. Jacob Chapter two, in the Book of Mormon clearly and fully condemns the Practice of Polygamy. Please Check out and See:

The Book of Mormon condemns the Practice of Polygamy:
http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... php?t=6040


But from a believers perspective, why would the patriarchal fathers be polygamous? Wouldn't that also contradict Jacob Chapter Two?
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Wouldn't that also contradict Jacob Chapter Two?


That chapter is about following the living prophet, not about polygamy being wrong.
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Gazelam wrote:
Trevor wrote:
moksha wrote:Regardless of what McConkie said, would it not be better if we all got stoned?


Amen to that, brother moksha.


Just when I was standign up for the dissaffected and saying that they were not laden with sin...tsk tsk.

potheads.


Not that type of stoned Brother Gaz.
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