Skinny-L Members Ridicule T. Kimball, C. Hitchens

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_The Nehor
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Trevor wrote:
The Nehor wrote:How does this follow? We have as much evidence that these actually are from that listing as we do that the 2nd Watson Letter existed.


Did I miss the part where Daniel denied that these quotes reflected actual skinny-l material?


Can you show me the place where he confirmed it?
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The Nehor wrote:Can you show me the place where he confirmed it?


He wrote about the content as though it were real, and I doubt he would have missed the opportunity to deny its accuracy, if it were false.

In other words, it is a reasonable inference.
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I also found flaws in Hitchen's description of Mormonism, with regards to the details, but with regards to general analysis and conclusions, he was spot on.
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Trevor wrote:In other words, it is a reasonable inference.


Seconded.

And by the way, if The Nehor disagrees further it is best to ignore him.
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Trevor wrote:I guess we have also discovered that Scratch wasn't lying about his knowledge of some things on skinny-l.

I was curious. I've inquired. Those two items were apparently crossposted to another list, or some such thing.

Scratch doesn't have access to Skinny-L.
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The Dude wrote:if The Nehor disagrees further it is best to ignore him.


Words to live by.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:Scratch doesn't have access to Skinny-L.


I don't think that was his exact claim.
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Trevor wrote:I don't think that was his exact claim.

I don't think it was, either. I'm just trying to keep things clear.

My hunch is that Scratch has seen a small handful of items from the probably many thousands of posts that have gone back and forth between the people on Skinny-L during the years of its existence. His position to characterize that traffic is weaker than he's been letting on. People who might be inclined to accept his characterizations (notably Gadianton, for one) need to be aware of that fact.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:My hunch is that Scratch has seen a small handful of items from the probably many thousands of posts that have gone back and forth between the people on Skinny-L during the years of its existence. His position to characterize that traffic is weaker than he's been letting on. People who might be inclined to accept his characterizations (notably Gadianton, for one) need to be aware of that fact.


fair enough
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Trevor wrote:He wrote about the content as though it were real, and I doubt he would have missed the opportunity to deny its accuracy, if it were false.

In other words, it is a reasonable inference.

Incidentally, this seems a small point worth making:

I don't know for sure that the two quotations are authentic. With all of the thousands of posts that have gone back and forth on Skinny-L over the years, there's simply no way that I can remember all of them. I don't even always read all of them.

But I assume that they're authentic, because I have no reason not to do so. Despite my admittedly very low opinion of Scratch (and my confidence that his obsessive personal hostility toward me may stem from my having caught him, as I believe, in a rather brazen lie some years ago), I don't believe that he actually forges the evidence that he uses against me. He simply carefully selects, spins, tortures, abuses, and misrepresents it.

Assuming the authenticity of a document or a report unless one has solid reasons to question its authenticity is the reasonable thing to do, and is the default setting for normal civil conversation.
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