Why HAVE the apologists sold out for Central America?

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Re: Why HAVE the apologists sold out for Central America?

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collegeterrace wrote:
Yong Xi wrote:Can you imagine Book of Mormon Tours to Cleveland?

No but Fair/Farms/MI's biggest threat, Rodney Meldrum, can and does!

He is such a threat that they refer to him as MR. Meldrum, not BROTHER. Pretty ad hominem eh?

Not that anybody serious here takes PP seriously . . . but, just for the record:

FARMS/the Maxwell Institute hasn't, so far as I'm aware, referred to Rodney Meldrum at all.







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Re: Why HAVE the apologists sold out for Central America?

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Daniel Peterson wrote:
collegeterrace wrote:No but Fair/Farms/MI's biggest threat, Rodney Meldrum, can and does!

He is such a threat that they refer to him as MR. Meldrum, not BROTHER. Pretty ad hominem eh?

Not that anybody serious here takes PP seriously . . . but, just for the record:

FARMS/the Maxwell Institute hasn't, so far as I'm aware, referred to Rodney Meldrum at all.


YET

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Re: Why HAVE the apologists sold out for Central America?

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It's true, since we review just about everything published on the Book of Mormon, that we'll almost certainly review Rodney Meldrum's stuff.

The fact remains, though, that PP's claim that writers for FARMS or the Maxwell Institute "refer to him as MR. Meldrum, not BROTHER," is flatly false, as is the claim that they do so because he's "such a threat" to them, since, thus far, no writer for FARMS or the Maxwell Institute has referred to Rodney Meldrum at all. Nor, for that matter, is anybody at FARMS or the Maxwell Institute currently working on a review of anything by Rodney Meldrum.

Attempts at mindreading are often unpersuasive -- but they're especially so when they're seeking the motivation for an action that, as a matter of fact, hasn't even happened.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:Attempts at mindreading are often unpersuasive -- but they're especially so when they're seeking the motivation for an action that, as a matter of fact, hasn't even happened.


Well, for goodness sakes, get off your collective duff and do something about that neglect. PP needs something to complain about, and you aren't keeping your part of the bargain.
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Re: Why HAVE the apologists sold out for Central America?

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Okay. For PP:

"Mister Meldrum. Neener neener neener!"

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I've always been partial to Mapping the Book of Mormon by Pate.

http://www.mormontopics.com/

... One possibly big error in the origin of the name of the city pegged as Ammonihah has been pointed out to me, but the overall reasoning seems good and the negative FARMS treatment of it was just a gloss over imho.

It does contain a unique way of looking at the river Sidon and the narrow neck of land.
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bcspace wrote:... One possibly big error in the origin of the name of the city pegged as Ammonihah has been pointed out to me, but the overall reasoning seems good and the negative FARMS treatment of it was just a gloss over imho.

It does contain a unique way of looking at the river Sidon and the narrow neck of land.


I dunno why anyone would argue about city names without first explaining how Adam practiced Christianity, contrary to every historical assessment we have by reputable scholars. Isn't it a bit like straightening deck chairs on the Titanic?
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I dunno why anyone would argue about city names without first explaining how Adam practiced Christianity, contrary to every historical assessment we have by reputable scholars. Isn't it a bit like straightening deck chairs on the Titanic?


What, in your opinion, did Adam practice?
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bcspace wrote:
I dunno why anyone would argue about city names without first explaining how Adam practiced Christianity, contrary to every historical assessment we have by reputable scholars. Isn't it a bit like straightening deck chairs on the Titanic?


What, in your opinion, did Adam practice?


Not Christianity. No scholar worth his salt would argue this, because the evidence simply isn't there.

But the POGP states that Adam had "the gospel". And that Christianity was known since the time of Adam. In all its fulness! This, mind you, was at a time when Jews didn't even believe in an afterlife, at all, much less with specific grades of salvation.

You don't see the 19th century influences, BC?
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Re: Why HAVE the apologists sold out for Central America?

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bcspace wrote:
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What, in your opinion, did Adam practice?


Copulation.

Gen 1: 28 wrote:And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.(Gen 1:31)
No other command to DO (=practice) anything.
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