E. Nelson states no reunion at death unless sealed?

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Gazelam wrote:Your not getting it.

Gazzie, you are the one NOT getting it.

Just like all Mormon scripture, the D&C was fabricated, made up as Joe came stole others ideas or created to get himself out of a bind with Emma.

Just because Eternal/Celestial/polygamist marriage is found in the D&C does not mean squat. What about the billion people who believe all of the made up stuff in the Koran? Cannot prove anything as binding or true in the D&C.

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Gazelam wrote:mms,

The problem is your attitude. You act like this concept is somethign new, and that we hardhearted Mormons have drummed up some new doctrine of exclusivity.

What the marriage doctrine re-teaches is that priesthood authority is needed to bind in heaven what you also desire to have bound to you on earth. Want to be a member of the church? Get baptised and have the name of Christ sealed upon you. The marriage covenant is an extension of that same covenant.

Sealings will be the great work of the Millinium, which is why so many temples are being built, including mini temples that are designed for fast ordinance work.


But, WHY?? Why is there some need for a ritual on Earth with someone who supposedly has the right "keys", and belonging to the right religion to live with your family in the afterlife?? It honestly makes no sense.

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The Dude wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Did he really say this? This is a real assholish thing to say about a dead person and the remarks made by their family members in an obituary.


Hey, Nelson is just conveying the Lord's policy and dispelling wishful thinking of the uninitiated masses. This is how it really works in heaven. If you didn't check the correct options then you are out of luck. Don't blame Nelson. Like I said, God is a legalistic bastard.


This has come up before, but it never gets old.

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Seth, that's pretty much how I imagine it at first, until it boils over into another "war in heaven" and all hell breaks loose.
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Scottie wrote:
Gazelam wrote:mms,

The problem is your attitude. You act like this concept is somethign new, and that we hardhearted Mormons have drummed up some new doctrine of exclusivity.

What the marriage doctrine re-teaches is that priesthood authority is needed to bind in heaven what you also desire to have bound to you on earth. Want to be a member of the church? Get baptised and have the name of Christ sealed upon you. The marriage covenant is an extension of that same covenant.

Sealings will be the great work of the Millinium, which is why so many temples are being built, including mini temples that are designed for fast ordinance work.


But, WHY?? Why is there some need for a ritual on Earth with someone who supposedly has the right "keys", and belonging to the right religion to live with your family in the afterlife?? It honestly makes no sense.

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Why? Because Joseph Smith said that God said that those are the rules. If Joseph Smith said God said we need to get a tattoo that says "Jesus Rocks!" on our left shoulder by those who have authority, then those are the rules. You can't get it on the right shoulder or lower back, only the left shoulder, and only by a tatooist with the proper authority to apply Jesus tattoos. It doesn't matter how stupid the rule seems, those are the rules. If you want to be part of the Mormon church, you have to do what Joseph Smith says God wants you to do.
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SatanWasSetUp wrote:Why? Because Joseph Smith said that God said that those are the rules. If Joseph Smith said God said we need to get a tattoo that says "Jesus Rocks!" on our left shoulder by those who have authority, then those are the rules. You can't get it on the right shoulder or lower back, only the left shoulder, and only by a tatooist with the proper authority to apply Jesus tattoos. It doesn't matter how stupid the rule seems, those are the rules. If you want to be part of the Mormon church, you have to do what Joseph Smith says God wants you to do.

It really is just that ridiculous, isn't it??
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Scottie wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Why? Because Joseph Smith said that God said that those are the rules. If Joseph Smith said God said we need to get a tattoo that says "Jesus Rocks!" on our left shoulder by those who have authority, then those are the rules. You can't get it on the right shoulder or lower back, only the left shoulder, and only by a tatooist with the proper authority to apply Jesus tattoos. It doesn't matter how stupid the rule seems, those are the rules. If you want to be part of the Mormon church, you have to do what Joseph Smith says God wants you to do.

It really is just that ridiculous, isn't it??


No, you two knuckleheads are the ridiculous ones.

Christ fullfilled his mission, and it is in the sealing and striving to live up to the name of Christ that we find salvation from the Fall of Adam.

As an extension of that, a man who takes upon himself the priesthood of Christ, known to us in our day as the Melchizedek Priesthood, and excercises that Priesthood in the sealing and binding of his name upon his family in the emulation of Christ and his sealing his name upon us, receives in glory all those things he has sealed his name upon. The same as Christ receives all who worthily take upon themselves his name.

There is a school and a lesson involved in all of this, the same as living up to baptisimal covenants is a school and a lesson. Names are very important, and binding a family name to the name of Christ, and bringing honor to that name is the act of creating our own tree of life, and we will some day present the fruit of that tree to the Father himself.
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Gazelam the garment'ed ass hat wrote:
No, you two knuckleheads are the ridiculous ones.

Christ fullfilled his mission, and it is in the sealing and striving to live up to the name of Christ that we find salvation from the Fall of Adam.

As an extension of that, a man who takes upon himself the priesthood of Christ, known to us in our day as the Melchizedek Priesthood, and excercises that Priesthood in the sealing and binding of his name upon his family in the emulation of Christ and his sealing his name upon us, receives in glory all those things he has sealed his name upon. The same as Christ receives all who worthily take upon themselves his name.
WTFF? Where do you pull this contrived BS from, your Mormon corn hole, past the poop chute of your old school one piece masonic Mormon PJs? Good f'ing god, wipe your ass after pulling that turd from your ass. Please quote non Mormon CHRISTIAN BIBLICAL SCRIPTURE that supports that B-faaaacking-S.
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Why get so bent out of shape over gay marriages if they are for time only?
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It's kind of funny to imagine the outrage that would ensue, when all those spirit people realize that only Mormons get to be with their families after death because God is a legalistic bastard.


Since all will have a first opportunity at some point in time, I highly doubt it. I'll bet they just shrug their shoulders and go "ho hum". After all, the expectation for them still was "until death do us part".

You might want to avail yourself of C.S. Lewis' "The Great Divorce". That allegory is much closer to the truth of LDS belief than your legalistic hypothesis.
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