What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

[_bcspace]

A recent study conducted by the Alternative Lifestyle Organisation (ALSO) and the Australian Drug Foundation found that homosexuals have a much higher rate of drug usage than does the general population. For example, “65% of gay, lesbian, bisexual and queer men aged 20 to 29 and 36% of women in the same category have used ecstasy. This is compared to 19% of men and 12% of women in the same age group in the national survey.” James McKenzie, “Study finds higher drug use within the community,” Brother Sister, 6 July 2000, 3

Oh Ray, I've got many many more.......

[_Ray A]

I've posted much evidence accumulated by science about homosexuality being a dangerous and risky lifestyle before and can do it again.

Heterosexuality is also dangerous and risky. It can lead people, for example, to think that polygamy is normal.

But your question orginal question was about harming heterosexual marriages and I've shown you how that's implicit in the definition of homosexual marriage.

No, BC, you still haven't produced the evidence that SSM "threatens" society, or "marriage". I also posted definitive studies from countries that have studied this, and all of them report no effects whatsoever upon society. In fact, some studies reported an increase in heterosexual marriages.

[_bcspace]

I've posted much evidence accumulated by science about homosexuality being a dangerous and risky lifestyle before and can do it again.

Heterosexuality is also dangerous and risky.

Sure. But the risks associated with homosexuality are greater in comparison to heterosexuality.

It can lead people, for example, to think that polygamy is normal.

"Plural marriage" without the paper or commitment is common place and considered acceptable in society. For you see, the sex aspect of it is celebrated and encouraged these days......

[_Ray A]

A recent study conducted by the Alternative Lifestyle Organisation (ALSO) and the Australian Drug Foundation found that homosexuals have a much higher rate of drug usage than does the general population. For example, “65% of gay, lesbian, bisexual and queer men aged 20 to 29 and 36% of women in the same category have used ecstasy. This is compared to 19% of men and 12% of women in the same age group in the national survey.” James McKenzie, “Study finds higher drug use within the community,” Brother Sister, 6 July 2000, 3

Oh Ray, I've got many many more.......

Where does this address the question of whether gay marriage "threatens" society? Do you think the high drug-usage (and abnormally high suicide rate among Gays) might be because of social rejection?

I'll have more to say on this later

[_bcspace]

Where does this address the question of whether gay marriage "threatens" society?

Switching the meaning of the question again? The danger is in the definition. A homosexual marriage means two people not being heterosexually married. It also sets a bad example for youth, the social acceptance giving them the perception of license. etc.

Do you think the high drug-usage (and abnormally high suicide rate among Gays) might be because of social rejection?

No. Many of these studies occur within the "community" where such behavior is accepted. SF, LA, the Netherlands, etc.

[_Ray A]

"Plural marriage" without the paper or commitment is common place and considered acceptable in society. For you see, the sex aspect of it is celebrated and encouraged these days......

You obviously didn't see the reactions of Australians to Muslim leaders' suggestion that polygamy become legal. And you obviously don't understand the basic Christian foundations of Western society, and their rejection of polygamy as one of the "twin relics of barbarism". The other being slavery.

[_bcspace]

"Plural marriage" without the paper or commitment is common place and considered acceptable in society. For you see, the sex aspect of it is celebrated and encouraged these days......

You obviously didn't see the reactions of Australians to Muslim leaders' suggestion that polygamy become legal.

So casual sex between unmarrieds is not a common occurance in Australia? You missed the point entirely.

And you obviously don't understand the basic Christian foundations of Western society, and their rejection of polygamy as one of the "twin relics of barbarism". The other being slavery.

And this has to with with......what?

[_Ray A]

It also sets a bad example for youth, the social acceptance giving them the perception of license. etc.

So, a heterosexual male will read that gay marriage is okay, and decide that he's going to marry a man? LOL. This is where you are so naïve. As if the gay lifestyle would be a "threat" to a heterosexual.

No. Many of these studies occur within the "community" where such behavior is accepted. SF, LA, the Netherlands, etc.

Define, define, define. Are you saying that the academics who undertook these studies skewed the results to favour their preconceptions?

[_Ray A]

So casual sex between unmarrieds is not a common occurance in Australia? You missed the point entirely.

And the "point" is that, to solve the problem of "casual sex", is for MEN to have multiple wives.

Got it. That's what the Muslims are arguing. "Please make polygamy legal, so we can stop going to brothels to get release from sexual confinement". I can even give you the exact quotes. In other words, they want wives who can fulfill their sexual desires, without having to pay for it.

Nothing wrong there. Oh no.

[_moksha]

One can think it is still sinful but really believe in agency and that in a republic like the USA one does not have the right to impose ones personal beliefs on an entire group.

I completely agree with you Jason. We need to remember who's plan it was to force people to be good and who's plan it was to give them free agency.