Arizona 1070

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Re: Arizona 1070

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Molok wrote:I think any talk of amnesty is pre mature until we have stopped them from coming over the border, don't you?


And, that will never happen.

Completely stopped? I agree. But it could certainl be drastically reduced, don't you think?
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Kevin, you're obviously well educated about this subject. What are some of the negative effects we have seen from having so many illegals in the country?


From what I can tell, the most negative effect to having more Mexicans in the country is that it has made American racism more apparent than it previously was.
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Inconceivable wrote:It's as if we all think undocumented aliens are too stupid to carry wallets and purses? Why the preferential treatment??

To be clear - a driver's license was not going to be considered valid support of citizenship since you don't have to have citizenship to have a valid driver's license.


So what the hell is wrong with carrying something that shows you're legal? I do. I have a CCW (Concealed Weapons Permit). You can't have one if you're undocumented and law enforcement knows exactly who you are before you even pull it out.

There are simple solutions to this mess.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Besides, illegals provide more for this economy than they drain. .

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Re: Arizona 1070

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Kevin Graham wrote:
Kevin, you're obviously well educated about this subject. What are some of the negative effects we have seen from having so many illegals in the country?


From what I can tell, the most negative effect to having more Mexicans in the country is that it has made American racism more apparent than it previously was.

How so? Also, what are the negative effects, beside the racist one?
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So what the hell is wrong with carrying something that shows you're legal?


It is unconstitutional. Government cannot force people to carry with them at all times, identification proving they are citizens.

I do. I have a CCW (Concealed Weapons Permit). You can't have one if you're undocumented and law enforcement knows exactly who you are before you even pull it out.


And? How would you like to be put in jail because you forgot to bring along your CCW card? No big deal right?
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Molok wrote: f*** the united states government. f*** them in their stupid asses.


While this certainly applies to immigration, the sentiment is by no means limited to immigration.
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Inconceivable wrote:So what the hell is wrong with carrying something that shows you're legal?


Do you really want to live in a "papers, please" society?

I have a CCW (Concealed Weapons Permit). You can't have one if you're undocumented and law enforcement knows exactly who you are before you even pull it out.


You don't see a difference between requiring someone to carry ID because they're carrying a concealed weapon and carrying ID because they live in this country?

There are simple solutions to this mess.


Stop giving free social services to illegal immigrants. That would be a step in the right direction.

But it's not quite that simple, either.

Recognizing that illegal immigrants really are doing jobs that Americans generally won't do would be another step toward dealing with the immigration problem.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/stephen-co ... -illegals/
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Darth J wrote:
Molok wrote: f*** the united states government. f*** them in their stupid asses.


While this certainly applies to immigration, the sentiment is by no means limited to immigration.

Yea, verily.
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Re: Arizona 1070

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Kevin Graham wrote:
I do. I have a CCW (Concealed Weapons Permit). You can't have one if you're undocumented and law enforcement knows exactly who you are before you even pull it out.

And? How would you like to be put in jail because you forgot to bring along your CCW card? No big deal right?

Actually, Kevin,

It is a big deal.

If I am carrying a concealed weapon and do not have my CCW in my possession, I will be arrested. My permit will be revoked and I will pay a fine.

Period.
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