Maxrep wrote: The forth mission of the church is helping the poor and needy. Am I missing something?
that's correct and they do..............whats your point??????????
You have reminded me of a quote from the movie, Nacho Libre;
"Did you not tell them that they were the Lord's chips?"
Just seems like the mall has already swallowed more than its fair share of the "Lords chips". Can you say that the level of help offered to the poor and needy will not be impacted by the growing financial needs of the mall?
I don't expect to see same-sex marriage in Utah within my lifetime. - Scott Lloyd, Oct 23 2013
City Creek will flow in the buildings, there will be water ponds with genetically engineered trout and aquatic plants, waterfalls and all this for the measly sum of $158 million.
Does that mean fishing on Sunday is no longer a sin?
City Creek will flow in the buildings, there will be water ponds with genetically engineered trout and aquatic plants, waterfalls and all this for the measly sum of $158 million.
Does that mean fishing on Sunday is no longer a sin?
They were genetically engineered not to be sinful.
Willy Law wrote:a church spending $75 million on fake rivers, waterfalls and trout is obscene.
Not if you believe.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
jskains wrote:Even if all that is true, the money does not come from tithing.
JMS
Why are donated lands, stocks and money, or monies earned on donated land, stocks and money, or church businesses which create income created by members donations of lands, stocks and money....any less consecrated than tithing donations?
When someone donates their 500 acre parcel in Springville at their death, they are donating it to the church and its leaders only as representatives or proxies of God. Donations made to the church are exactly the same as tithing receipts.
Since every business started by the church came either by tithing or donations, it is all the same.
joseph smith CAIN wrpte: "I could come on here and claim that the Church was now building special ward buildings to deal with illegal immigrants and you would believe it.
These are unprovable claims." ---------------------
Damn right they are unprovable. Lets stick to things we can prove. Like horses in America before Columbus. Silk garments, iron spears and swords, scimitars and Zelph - the great white lamanite warrior. Stuff we can see with out own two eyes!
"This is how INGORNAT these fools are!" - darricktevenson
Bow your head and mutter, what in hell am I doing here?
infaymos wrote: "Peterson is the defacto king ping of the Mormon Apologetic world."
jskains wrote:Even if all that is true, the money does not come from tithing.
JMS
When I was growing up in the projects of Detroit I sold crack on the streets. I was very successful and eventually saved enough money to buy a restaurant. That also was very successful. I took the money I made from the restaurant and bought a hotel. Don't worry though none of my crack money was used to buy the hotel.
It is my province to teach to the Church what the doctrine is. It is your province to echo what I say or to remain silent. Bruce R. McConkie
jskains wrote:Even if all that is true, the money does not come from tithing.
JMS
If the Church had "saints", I suspect the guy who came up with the idea that there different classes of Church money and it wasn't all supposed to go towards holy purposes would be canonized by now.
