How did Moroni transport the plates from Mesoamerica to NY?

[_Buffalo]

Look, not every damn thing has to stand on empirical proofs.

Yes it does.

[_bcspace]

I personally can't imagine any way Moroni could have gotten those plates up there from Mexico.

He had some decades to do it and they probably weighed on the low end of the typical ranges given (50-60 lbs) or less; being likely composed of a gold alloy.

[_Buffalo]

I personally can't imagine any way Moroni could have gotten those plates up there from Mexico.

He had some decades to do it and they probably weighed on the low end of the typical ranges given (50-60 lbs) or less; being likely composed of a gold alloy.

Not official doctrine.

[_Quasimodo]

I personally can't imagine any way Moroni could have gotten those plates up there from Mexico.

He had some decades to do it and they probably weighed on the low end of the typical ranges given (50-60 lbs) or less; being likely composed of a gold alloy.

Lets say he had a llama to pack the plates. Maybe a few llamas to carry water and food. How did he manage to get through four thousand miles of hostile territory (much of it desert) alone?

I think it's obvious that Joseph Smith was talking about Cummorah of the final battle being the hill near Palmyra.

Too bad there are no artifacts there to back up the story.

[_bcspace]

He had some decades to do it and they probably weighed on the low end of the typical ranges given (50-60 lbs) or less; being likely composed of a gold alloy.

Not official doctrine.

Which is why we can speculate and theorize and not necessarily be wrong.

Lets say he had a llama to pack the plates. Maybe a few llamas to carry water and food. How did he manage to get through four thousand miles of hostile territory (much of it desert) alone?

According to the Book of Mormon, he had several decades to do it. Could have been a little at a time and he could have stayed a while in various locations becomming part of the local population.

I think it's obvious that Joseph Smith was talking about Cummorah of the final battle being the hill near Palmyra.

But the question is, was it his personal belief or was it revelation?

Too bad there are no artifacts there to back up the story.

No evidence for is not evidence against.

[_Buffalo]

But the question is, was the Book of Mormon his personal belief or was it revelation?

Indeed

[_Buffalo]

No evidence for is not evidence against.

Actually, it really is evidence against. Strong evidence against.

[_Quasimodo]

According to the Book of Mormon, he had several decades to do it. Could have been a little at a time and he could have stayed a while in various locations becomming part of the local population.

Kinda grasping at straws, don't you think? Four thousand miles was a very long way in those days (still is if your walking it). Since he was the last Nephite, wouldn't all the local populations have been enemies?

But the question is, was it his personal belief or was it revelation?

Isn't that the BIG question for the entire Book of Mormon? The fact that you would ask that question brings the whole story under doubt. If any of his story is only his personal belief (or imagination), which parts of the story can be believed?

No evidence for is not evidence against.

Of course it is!!!!! That is such an untrue statement and worn out line. In the two hundred years of agriculture near Hill Commorah not one artifact has ever been turned up by a plow. This alone makes it a near certainty that no great battle was ever fought there.

[_beefcalf]

When Joseph and Oliver returned the plates they entered a dimensional portal where all the treasures where kept. That cave of wonders is not in today's Hill Cumorah near Palmyra, New York.

Ah, the old "dimensional portal" defense. I haven't heard that one in a while.

LDSTruthSeeker!

What? You've never seen photos taken of the entrance to the Cave of Wonders?!?

Behold:

[_Simon Belmont]

Um, let's be real for a sec.

There were no gold plates to transport to Cumorah.

There is NO evidence of gold during Book of Mormon times in the Book of Mormon Mesoamerica location.

None.

Ask any reputable, knowledgeable, and honest apologist and he/she will confirm that there was no gold (in that time and location), out of which to make plates.

Just keeping it real! ;-)


~td~

Plates had the appearance of gold. No one ever said they were gold.

Just keeping it real.