just me wrote:I didn't say the speakers were boring. Geez. They were the best part. The subjects were totally ridiculous and boring. The humans are the most fascinating and enjoyable aspect of church.
Pretty sure the bishop would not be comfortable with me giving a talk, but thanks for the idea. LOL Not that there is a single topic I would be able to speak about in church with a straight face anyway...
Oh I see. The people were interesting but they presented the subject material in a boring and unexciting way. But that is only normal. Most people do not present information in an exciting way. I am sure that Joyce Meyer who tends to talk about the same thing every sunday can make the old sound new because of her gift of speaking. And she does do this. Good speakers have a certain flair about them.
Well, you can speak about yourself and the situation that you are in at this moment and why. Here is he deal: The LDS church can be a boring experience with average people being overworked in their private life which is also filled with daily problems. And there is nothing wrong with giving a positive talk about life being a shock and awe experience by enjoying the simple things that one sees all around them.
Now about the post mortal world. I thought that it was pretty good. I did make my comments which are basically not traditional. But at the end of the day, it is rather unique to believe that one goes to a degree of glory and not just have a choice between a heaven and a hell. And the Mormon post mortal world seems much more loving than a heaven or hell choice.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
jon wrote: Interestingly you fail to consider single people, without families. Not that I blame you. Mormonism conditions people to think of solutions, activities etc solely from a family (Parents and children) point of view.
Actually I am single but just me isn't. See the point? Now if she were single I may suggest something else. For example, go to the park and read a good book and observe the beauty in the human being as they walk by. Or go for a nice walk among the trees and appreciate what one sees around them. But just me is married.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
jon wrote: Interestingly you fail to consider single people, without families. Not that I blame you. Mormonism conditions people to think of solutions, activities etc solely from a family (Parents and children) point of view.
Actually I am single but just me isn't. See the point? Now if she were single I may suggest something else. For example, go to the park and read a good book and observe the beauty in the human being as they walk by. Or go for a nice walk among the trees and appreciate what one sees around them. But just me is married.
Doh! Yep, got it now...
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just me wrote:I didn't say the speakers were boring. Geez. They were the best part. The subjects were totally ridiculous and boring. The humans are the most fascinating and enjoyable aspect of church.
Pretty sure the bishop would not be comfortable with me giving a talk, but thanks for the idea. LOL Not that there is a single topic I would be able to speak about in church with a straight face anyway...
Oh I see. The people were interesting but they presented the subject material in a boring and unexciting way. But that is only normal. Most people do not present information in an exciting way. I am sure that Joyce Meyer who tends to talk about the same thing every sunday can make the old sound new because of her gift of speaking. And she does do this. Good speakers have a certain flair about them.
Well, you can speak about yourself and the situation that you are in at this moment and why. Here is he deal: The LDS church can be a boring experience with average people being overworked in their private life which is also filled with daily problems. And there is nothing wrong with giving a positive talk about life being a shock and awe experience by enjoying the simple things that one sees all around them.
Now about the post mortal world. I thought that it was pretty good. I did make my comments which are basically not traditional. But at the end of the day, it is rather unique to believe that one goes to a degree of glory and not just have a choice between a heaven and a hell. And the Mormon post mortal world seems much more loving than a heaven or hell choice.
Actually, I still don't think you understand what I am saying. It is the SUBJECT matter itself that is boring or ridiculous or just repetetive or wrong-headed. Like, you could be the most interesting teacher in the world and be unable to make the size of Noah's ark interesting to grown adults. [especially one who no longer believe in a literal ark]
The lesson on the post-mortal life made it sound very unappealing. LOL That is the irony right there.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
It's Monday now and I've missed the boat on suggestions for yesterday afternoon.
For next week, beer and pizza in the afternoon. More elegant, wine and cheese. Personally, if I lived where you do, I would find a beautiful little stream somewhere and do some late afternoon fly fishing (catch and release, of course).
For me, shopping and going to church are similar. :)
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
just me wrote: Actually, I still don't think you understand what I am saying. It is the SUBJECT matter itself that is boring or ridiculous or just repetetive or wrong-headed. Like, you could be the most interesting teacher in the world and be unable to make the size of Noah's ark interesting to grown adults. [especially one who no longer believe in a literal ark]
The lesson on the post-mortal life made it sound very unappealing. LOL That is the irony right there.
I got it much earlier. But you also know that once someone thinks themselves away from the LDS church as you have done, all talks become tedious and all lessons become boring. It has very little to do with the teachers and the lessons but it has much to do with the person who is listening. And since the subject matter becomes noneventful because of possible disbelief, it becomes problematic to listen to.
It is not the subject matter but you.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Of course it is me, why_me. And it is all my fault, too. Because nothing is ever the fault of the church. Even if they have the stupidest doctrine and the lamest repetetive classes on the planet it is the fault of those bored by them and not those who wrote the curriculum.
That is the number one lesson of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
It is all your own damn fault.
I hear that a lot in these lessons. I also hear a lot of "us vs. them" talk. I also hear a lot of making fun of everyone who isn't Mormon...the people who just aren't as enlightened or blessed as "us."
The great news is that there is nothing wrong with me for being uninterested in the LDS curriculum. It is what it is. Clearly, boring is a subjective term. I have moved on and my interests no longer lie where they once did. It's great. And one day I will not feel compelled to haul my ass to 3 hours of Mormon church on any given Sunday.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote: The great news is that there is nothing wrong with me for being uninterested in the LDS curriculum. It is what it is. Clearly, boring is a subjective term. I have moved on and my interests no longer lie where they once did. It's great. And one day I will not feel compelled to haul my ass to 3 hours of Mormon church on any given Sunday.
And this is what I meant. You have moved on so the lessons are boring and tedious. You have just proved my point. But we can not blame the speakers or the teachers and the subject matter. If I loved the opera and found the opera very relaxing and then one day, I suddenly did not love the opera, I would begin to find it boring and tedious. I have moved on from the opera. Now if I felt compelled to attend the opera because of a spouse who still loves the opera, well, I would still find it tedious and boring and have nothing but complaints afterwards to post on an opera hating board.
But it is still you who have moved on. I attend some meetings but I make my comments to make the meetings more interesting for me. I just don't sit there with steam coming out of my ears. You can do the same.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith