Why aren't we designed better if there is an ID?

[_Ten Bear]

When I get my own world, I'm not going to design bodies for my spirit children to be human-like like me. I'm going to design them to be like spiders - eight legs and quick as heck. And then when the male mates with the female, she will in turn grab the male and ........

No, spiders aren't a good idea. Maybe I'll design shark bodies for my spirit children. Ya, that works.

[_stemelbow]

How will our bodies be different "in the end?"

Our mortal bodies are corruptible. Our immortal bodies will not be corruptible. They won't pass away, fade away, wear down...none of that. Our brains won't be subject to the difficultes of being throw around in high speed cars. They won't be able to be damaged.

Are our "perfected" bodies designed by someone/thing other than Heavenly Father?

That question can only be guessed at in some sense. Sure it can probably be said that Heavenly Father took part in body organizing. But the actual design was not something He just conjured up in His head out of thin air. He organized intelligences into spirits, which spirits resembled His own tabernacle. Our mortal bodies are said to be resemblances of our spirit structures. Our immortal bodies are also thought to be resembelances of our mortal bodies. If God went through the same, as some LDS would have it, then God Himself is a product of an infinite plan that had no beginning---no ultimate designer.

In other words, if God can perfect our bodies and the design flaws they have later, he could do it now.

But that is not considering the eternal structure of the plan. We didn't start somewhere. Our different stages in our journey began. That beginning is said to be for our own benefit and pleasure.

[_Quasimodo]

This is what gets me every time about the idea that we're intelligently designed. Some of these "design choices" are nuts.

Who could come up with a worse solution than menstruation? It's insane. A monthly bleeding? It's messy and terribly inefficient.

I hope the ladies out there don't take this as a sexist remark. I've just always found it to be a bad and inconvenient way of solving a simple problem.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey Quasi (Hope all is well) :)

I hope the ladies out there don't take this as a sexist remark. I've just always found it to be a bad and inconvenient way of solving a simple problem.

Duct tape?

(I too hope the ladies out there do not take this as a sexist comment)

[_brade]

This is what gets me every time about the idea that we're intelligently designed. Some of these "design choices" are nuts.

Who could come up with a worse solution than menstruation? It's insane. A monthly bleeding? It's messy and terribly inefficient.

I hope the ladies out there don't take this as a sexist remark. I've just always found it to be a bad and inconvenient way of solving a simple problem.

Here's a possible solution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMJZ_OUJwKE

[_just me]

No, I was going to bring up menstruation, too.

In fact, if women are supposed to be able to have babies in the afterlife but there is no blood or corruption how is that even possible? How will a man be able to impregnate his wife without blood...

Can we eat and deficate in the afterlife? If not, why will we be resurrected with our teeth and our internal digestive system?

What about skin? As long as humans have skin they will be destructible.

[_Quasimodo]

Hey Quasi (Hope all is well) :)

I hope the ladies out there don't take this as a sexist remark. I've just always found it to be a bad and inconvenient way of solving a simple problem.

Duct tape?

(I too hope the ladies out there do not take this as a sexist comment)

Hey Ceeboo! Doin' good! How 'bout you?

I was thinking more along the lines of reabsorbtion. It works pretty well in cases of edema, etc.

Duct tape could work as well, I suppose. It might be really painful to remove, though.

[_Scottie]

Why even have a central nervous system, with the main nerve stem located in the movable spine? Not only that, but then lets place a large, heavy head on a neck with muscles woefully inadequate to support the head in the case of even minor collisions.

What's funny is when I point out just how much humans and apes/chimps look alike, theists will refute with passion. I look at an ape/chimp and just scratch my head as to how they don't see the similarities???

And then there's always the fun, "how did gorillas turn into humans????" I love people that don't even have a basic grasp how evolution works.

Humans are just another form of primate. End of story.

[_Quasimodo]

No, I was going to bring up menstruation, too.

In fact, if women are supposed to be able to have babies in the afterlife but there is no blood or corruption how is that even possible? How will a man be able to impregnate his wife without blood...

Can we eat and deficate in the afterlife? If not, why will we be resurrected with our teeth and our internal digestive system?

What about skin? As long as humans have skin they will be destructible.

Thanks for getting me off the hook.

Way off subject (your fault for reminding me of it), but I read a Chumash Indian story some years ago that talked about eating in the afterlife.

It talked about the dead just smelling food and it would instantly turn to feces. It sounded really bizarre to me at first, but then I realized that they meant the food value was just absorbed, leaving only the waste.

[_Buffalo]

What are you talking about? How is Mormonism different?

LDS belief is different, Rambo, because for LDS God did not conjur up the whole affair in His mind and then started making things appear--making components just appear out of nothing. You see if the traditional concept is true, then its a wonder why God would create anything imperfect out of nothing. He's perfect, why create imperfect things? The imagination must assume that a perfect God, if He can create out of nothing, can create anything He wants--like a body that isn't corruptible. You see, the implication here is that God imagined what to create, and based on His imagination He created.

For LDS God didn't create out of nothing. He organized things, including our mortal bodies, out of already existing things. This might beg the question, "well couldn't have God, for LDS, created us even better than we are?" Who knows? But the point is clear--we're here upon our own choice, and in the end we won't have anything that ails us about our bodies.

I'm not sure this argument gets you anywhere. God could just as easily have created us perfectly from nothing as from pre-existing elements.