why me wrote:Let me try this again for buffalo. I knew that polygamy was not to be permanent. It was tempory. Such was what I remember being taught if I remember correctly.
They also used to teach that polygamy was started to make up for all the men lost in emigrating to SLC. Another lie.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Fence Sitter wrote:They cannot completely run away from it and practice it at the same time. I believe Elder Oaks feels he has two wives at this time and is equally married to both of them. One is just temporarily less substantial.
Oh yes, Oaks has to be devoted to it. I believe others, like Hinckley, would have disavowed it completely if it were possible to do so without throwing Joseph under the bus.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
why me wrote:Let me try this again for buffalo. I knew that polygamy was not to be permanent. It was tempory. Such was what I remember being taught if I remember correctly.
It was never intended to be temporary, Why Me. The prophet himself said that abandoning polygamy would be tantamount to apostasy.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
In a lot of ways, I think that the modern polygamy structure in Bill's family on "Big Love" was pretty accurate.
Do you think that women would be more inclined to be in polygamous marriages due to social status? (i.e. It is better to be the 4th wife of a Bishop or Stake President than the 1st wife of a Sunday School teacher)
liz3564 wrote:In a lot of ways, I think that the modern polygamy structure in Bill's family on "Big Love" was pretty accurate.
Do you think that women would be more inclined to be in polygamous marriages due to social status? (i.e. It is better to be the 4th wife of a Bishop or Stake President than the 1st wife of a Sunday School teacher)
I think women are inclined to consider the social status of men when considering them for a mate period. In your proposed situation it would depend on the woman but certainly it would be a factor. Look at how many of Joseph Smith's wives left their husbands when BY made them choose between him and their first spouse. Additionally look at what Emma put up with from Joseph, though he did have to throw in a carriage, watch and a lot of land.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
liz3564 wrote:In a lot of ways, I think that the modern polygamy structure in Bill's family on "Big Love" was pretty accurate.
I agree. Partly that was because many of the story lines were based on actual recent events: for example, when Barb was "outed" during a mother of the year contest.
I really need to sit down and watch the series back to back. I've always wanted to write something about it because it really captured a good feel for Utah culture in all its aspects.
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
Fence Sitter wrote:...though he did have to throw in a ... watch ...
Technically, wasn't it two watches? I can't remember, but didn't Emma demand a woman hand over the same watch that he'd given her too?
Now you are going to make me go look something up!!!!!
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
We still believe in polygamy. The only ban is here on earth and in fact a man may be sealed to multiple wives still here on earth as long as only one is alive. Ask any faithful LDS widower who has remarried and been sealed to someone else in the temple if he thinks his first wife is no longer his wife.
And your statement about always believing it would be temporary just boggles the mind yet again.
I was referring to an earthly practice. It was not meant to be permanent but temporary.
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