ANOTHER supernatural incident in my life...

[_Joseph Antley]

Your guardian spirit(s) is two male voices going to the bathroom together at an anonymous gay-sex meet-up spot?

[_Two of Three]

Your guardian spirit(s) is two male voices going to the bathroom together at an anonymous gay-sex meet-up spot?

And what's so unusual about that?

[_Tarski]

No, I'm not lying.

Look. Pay attention!!
No one said you lying. So why did you even say that???? One begins to wonder.
You are missing the obvious points I have been making because you think the whole issue is whether you are lying or not. (pay attention and see if you can get the real point!!!!)

One begins to wonder why your brain is stuck on the lying thing when it isn't my point. Maybe you are trying to tell me something-- maybe I should consider the lying thing after all.

This event happened to me exactly as I wrote,

And if it did, so what? As you yourself pointed out, they could have run. The unlikely (running) is still more likely than a stupid supernatural conclusion.

and I remember it like it was yesterday.

So what? Are you of the opinion that memories are always reliable? Do you think vivid=true?
You have a lot to learn about the human brain.

Tramatic events are like that. You never forget them.

Traumatic events are often associated with memory screw ups! (oh and vivid memory does not mean true memory---try hard to get that. Also, try and get this: even if true your story is mundane. No need for the supernatural. Concentrate!!)

YES...in the NAME OF GOD....in the NAME OF Jesus Christ....that event with the gay man, and the voices in the hall, running out a few seconds later, seeing nobody in the hall or outside. Yes, it happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now you are shouting the name of God and Christ over this boring little story? Wow!

Let me try:

I TESTIFY IN THE NAME OF THE MOST HIGH GODS ABOVE ALL GODS IN ALL ETERNITY THAT YOUR STORY DOES NOT EVEN BEGIN TO NEED A SUPERNATURAL EXPLANATION. YEAH, IT IS MUNDANE. I SO TESTIFY IN THE NAME OF THE ALL-BEING MASTER OF TIME SPACE AND DIMENSION FOREVER AND FOREVER AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did that settle it??

Yes, this really happened exactly as I wrote it.

So what? It is boring and doesn't invite a supernatural explanation even if you are remembering it accurately.

The two men would have had to RUN out and around to the back of the building for me not to have seen them.

OK then, I guess they ran. They ran. Why does that amaze you?


Like I said, it is obscene to think that angels would show up to save your arse while they don't do the same for innocent children who are the victims of rape and molestation everyday.


But now that you have weirdly protested that you weren't lying when it wasn't even suggested that you were lying, I am going to have to reconsider. You doth protest too much.

Either way, it is a boring story that involves nothing more than you not knowing the source of some voices and plenty of possible explanations to boot.

The only thing slightly interesting here is your childish penchant for magical thinking and your super weird obssession with the lying question (which you brought up).

[Guest]

Tramatic events are like that. You never forget them.

Traumatic events are often associated with memory screw ups! (oh and vivid memory does not mean true memory---try hard to get that. Also, try and get this: even if true your story is mundane. No need for the supernatural. Concentrate!!)

I witnessed a bomb go off in a crowded shopping area.

I was less than a hundred yards away from the explosion and had the blast area been towards me I'd have copped it. As would my three small children who were with me.

When I was relating my testimony of the event to the bomb squad investigator a few days later, I included in my description of the area a white van that had been parked in the vicinity. I was 100% certain about that van.

The officer showed me CCTV coverage of the area during the time of the explosion and sure enough there I was with my three small children. But guess what....no white van.

The officer explained that the mind plays tricks.
My mind had placed a white van in my memory to block out the images of carnage that my subconscious felt needed suppressing.

Before that experience I would have been very confident in my ability to relate past events with a high degree of accuracy.

I could relate to you the frustrating twenty seconds extra I had to wait at the car park because the ticket machine was having a funny turn. And that those 20 seconds saved our lives - which they did because we would have been 20 seconds closer to the blast, in fact we would have been right on top of it. I could put this down to a supernatural force protecting me and my kids from danger.

I can't do that because there were a large number of people maimed and a few killed. Had God been involved everyone would have been 20 seconds away from the explosion and two children would not have died.

Daheshist, I understand your desire to ascribe supernatural forces to things that happen in this life that are actually down to luck or coincidence or personal effort or rational and logical events. You can only do that because you came out of the situation you describe intact.

[_Tarski]

But guess what....no white van.

The officer explained that the mind plays tricks..

Daheshist would have just said that there was a supernatural force that changed the video or something. The van was there!! It just didn't show up on film because it was a vampire van. LOL

Daheshist, scroll up and read my last reply to you--slowly.