Interesting: Schryver an Anti-war Activist?

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Re: Interesting: Schryver an Anti-war Activist?

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Carton wrote:All the same, I apologize if it came across that I was "speaking ill" of her. I'm sure she is a fine woman, and she certainly deserves our respect for being able to live all these years with the "capo" of mopologetics.


No apologies needed Carton, you certainly didn’t do anything wrong or crass. You’re just setting up a cross that DCP can nail himself to, thought it heeded a warning.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:
Carton wrote:All the same, I apologize if it came across that I was "speaking ill" of her. I'm sure she is a fine woman, and she certainly deserves our respect for being able to live all these years with the "capo" of mopologetics.


No apologies needed Carton, you certainly didn’t do anything wrong or crass. You’re just setting up a cross that DCP can nail himself to, thought it heeded a warning.


How do people who nail themselves to crosses manage to get nails through both wrists? No doubt DCP will manage it if need be!
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Chap wrote:How do people who nail themselves to crosses manage to get nails through both wrists? No doubt DCP will manage it if need be!

I cannot comprehend what goes on in the minds of those who are driven by the need to be publicly crucified.

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Carton wrote:
Chap wrote:How do people who nail themselves to crosses manage to get nails through both wrists? No doubt DCP will manage it if need be!

I cannot comprehend what goes on in the minds of those who are driven by the need to be publicly crucified.

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I think I can comprehend what goes their minds when they are being publicly crucified. Something like: "Oh My God this hurts!! What the hell was I thinking???"
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Chap wrote:
That blog already has seven followers! The movement is growing ... it already has RayAgostini and Deborah Peterson (no relation?) as members. Today, the Internet. Tomorrow, Provo!!

Tremble, ye impious ones ...


Wondering if it is the.same.Deborah on MAD who at times comes across self righteous and mean spirited.
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MrStakhanovite wrote: You’re just setting up a cross that DCP can nail himself to, thought it heeded a warning.

Now there is an image I could have done without. This could morph into the brain worm of the week.

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Hoping for Mr. Schryver to take the "Against" and Droopy to take the "For" in a debate about the use of American military power in the past fifty years.

As to the OP, I didn't read the blog entry as Schryver as an anti-war activist (on the level of Wade Englund who apparently organized a knockoff version of SDS at Ricks U. back in the day) but that Schryver thought it might be a bad idea to go into a country that people have been trying to conquer for years without success because it's such a crappy crag of mountain and plateau.
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I wouldn't read too much into this. Schryver has made statements in the past that made it perfectly clear to me that he is a Right Winger at heart. I don't remember exactly what they were, but I remember being impressed by the unsurprising revelation that he toed the party line in Mormonism when it came to politics.

As much as Dan hates Obama and all that can be described as "leftist" or "liberal, well that's come as something of a surprise to me lately. I always knew he was "conservative" but he was never this outspoken or unyielding in his opinions until a Mormon became the Republican candidate. Ten years ago he told me in private email that he supported the Bush's administration's policy in the Middle East, but he never really gave details as to why, only to say that he has been a subscriber to the National Review and other related Right Wing magazines since he was a student in college.

But the Right Wing today has taken a nasty turn, and relies more on fear-mongering (government is out to get you!) and ignorance than it ever did in the past. I'm surprised someone with his intelligence has given up the ghost so easily. Isn't there anyone willing to represent the old school Republicans anymore?
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I agree with the overall sentiments in the blog post (which are largely Eisenhower's), but I did find this to be amazing:

"We will invade Afghanistan and our power will initially overwhelm the Taliban. But getting in will be the easy part. Getting out will prove much more difficult. There's a very good reason Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires. Ten years from now, after expending thousands of lives and bankrupting the national treasury, we'll be desperate to find a way to get the hell out of there without it looking like another Vietnam."

Wow, he even got the time frame right. Before Obama's troop surge, even. Not since Nephi have I seen a Mormon make such an eerily accurate after-the-fact prophecy.
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