liz3564 wrote:Uh...the sisters in our ward are...or at least ONE sister is. My friend, Karen, bakes the bread for the sacrament. She makes homemade bread every week and takes it in for them to use. I always wish I could take more than just one piece. LOL It is good bread! :biggrin:
It would be so rad if she could bake the bread in the kitchen with the boys! Seriously, that would make your ward the coolest ward in the world.
ETA: You know what? I think I'd go back to church if I could bake the sacrament bread in the kitchen with the YM before church. Hmmmm, I think you may have just turned a light bulb on for me, Liz!
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Drifting wrote:We had a transvestite turn up for Church one Sunday.The Bishop did not know what to do when it came to split for Priesthood and Relief Society. At the end of services the Bishop took him/her into the office and told him/her not to return.
It's very hard for a transsexual to become a member of the LDS Church. According to the current CHI (Section 16.3.16):
Baptism and confirmation of a person who has already undergone an elective transsexual operation require the approval of the First Presidency. The mission president may request this approval if he has interviewed the person, found him or her to be otherwise worthy, and can recommend baptism. However, such persons may not receive the priesthood or a temple recommend.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
Baptism and confirmation of a person who has already undergone an elective transsexual operation...
I am ignorant. What exactly is the difference between an elective operation and a non-elective? Are there situations where people will die if they don't have the procedure done? My guess is there are people who get made fun of at school or something. Maybe they are born XXY or something?
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
liz3564 wrote:My husband is a better cook than I am! He cooks more of the family meals than I do right now because of our work schedules.
liz3564 wrote: My friend, Karen, bakes the bread for the sacrament. She makes homemade bread every week and takes it in for them to use. I always wish I could take more than just one piece. LOL It is good bread!
I cannot cook (only a few, simple item) but the bread making is my exclusive privilege. If You could taste it...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
My X mastered some very tasty recipes in Relief Society. This act alone signifies that there is more real world benefit in Relief Society than Priesthood meetings.
Drifting wrote:We had a transvestite turn up for Church one Sunday.The Bishop did not know what to do when it came to split for Priesthood and Relief Society. At the end of services the Bishop took him/her into the office and told him/her not to return.
It's very hard for a transsexual to become a member of the LDS Church. According to the current CHI (Section 16.3.16):
Baptism and confirmation of a person who has already undergone an elective transsexual operation require the approval of the First Presidency. The mission president may request this approval if he has interviewed the person, found him or her to be otherwise worthy, and can recommend baptism. However, such persons may not receive the priesthood or a temple recommend.
Does this cover people born with both gender features who's parents elect for them whilst in infancy to be one or the other?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
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Drifting wrote: The sisters are not allowed into the Chapel kitchen when the young priesthood holders are preparing the Sacrament. I'm not kidding.
Uh...the sisters in our ward are...or at least ONE sister is. My friend, Karen, bakes the bread for the sacrament. She makes homemade bread every week and takes it in for them to use. I always wish I could take more than just one piece. LOL It is good bread!
Why not just purchase a loaf of bread? Seems a waste of time, not to mention it brings an element of showboating to a supposedly humble and sacred ordinance.
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir
zeezrom wrote:We might easily admire Agnodice for her efforts in disguise for the greater good of science. But let me ask you, my lovely board friends. Would we just as easily admire a man for sneaking into a Relief Society craft class by dressing like a woman?
Srsly? What the hell are the women doing that is so damned interesting as to motivate you to dress in women's clothing and attend a Relief Society event?
I mean, the only time they would cook in my ward was on "Food Storage" night, and there is no way on earth I'd wear a skirt so I could sneak into that TVP-based puke-fest. And who needs another "Love At Home" embroidered doily?
Go secular, Z, to learn the domestic arts. College cooking classes are WAAAAAAAY better than learning to make Sister Crowley's apple crumble from 20 year old oats and re-hydrated apples. And learning to embroider the Salt Lake Temple is far less exciting than using finely-honed tailor shears to cut a pattern for a 60's retro black skinny suit.
H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level." ~ Ernest Becker "Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death." ~ Simone de Beauvoir
just me wrote:All you gotta do to go to all the Relief Society stuff is be the bishop. Bishops can go anywhere.
They can sit in the back but they cannot (according to 21st century Western etiquette) participate.
I once got a pass to participate perhaps as much as 30 years ago. Somehow the sisters knew I sang psalms in the old style like David. I was invited to perform a couple. Afterward it was a bit awkward for me and possibly for them having me there to see the rest of the show. Oh well, been there, done that.
