A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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schreech wrote:
Tobin wrote: did not make that claim. As I've said, the only person it seems interested in misrepresenting things is you.


still no examples i see...

Tobin wrote:<-- This is an example of YOU MISCHARACTERIZING about what I said.


Not a mis-characterization at all. You said "I view as anti-Mormon as anything that discredits the claims that the gospel..." AND, unfortunately for you, things like "facts, intelligence, rational thought, scientific study and reality" discredit Mormon teachings....Not only that, the cfr was for me having NO scruples...Please tell me how you know this considering most people think I am a pretty good guy? Did god also tell you this during your visitation? If so, I would be concerned about which god you were visited by - loki can be a tricky one...

Welcome to ignore. You clearly have no interest in being honest or even truthfully quoting and responding to an example of you caught in a lie. I have no interest in talking with you any further.
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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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Tobin wrote:Romney is Mormon and as a result, he should not be elected as president.

It is 100% true that he is Mormon. The application is biased and false however.


Where is the mischaracterization? where is the lie? Also, who has said this? Being biased is not the same as being a liar - its sad that you don't know that. And, how is this false? Prove that he should be elected because he is a Mormon... This example is pathetic...
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Tobin wrote:
Romney is Mormon and as a result, he should not be elected as president.

It is 100% true that he is Mormon. The application is biased and false however.


Where is this stated on the MormonThink website? I need a linky.
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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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Tobin wrote:Welcome to ignore. You clearly have no interest in being honest or even truthfully quoting and responding to an example of you caught in a lie. I have no interest in talking with you any further.


that's what i thought - weak. Full of hot air with nothing of substance to offer....you would think that someone who has been visited by god would be better able to defend his pet beliefs and actually provide examples of mischaracterizations from mormonthink or at least show me where I lied...alas, it would appear that you are as ill-informed and dim as I imagined you would be...
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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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Tobin, you have yet to meet the challenge of providing content from Mormon Think to support your assertions.

Please do so, (putting people on ignore does not mean you have supported your assertions).
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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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This was the OP:

Drifting wrote:This question has been asked enough times recently for it to justify its own thread:

Can anyone, anyone at all, find something written on the Mormon Think website that is not factually accurate?


Edited to add: Please can someone start this exact thread on MDD and see how far it gets? (I am persona non grata there...)


subgenius wrote:just all of the hearsay and outlandish conclusions
otherwise i do not really have the desire or patience to verify dates and the like, so i just assume they are accurate enough.


Leaving aside Tobin's generalized burblings (at least he hasn't told us to 'speak with God') yet, that seems to be as near as we have got to a response: basically the good old tactic of "there are so many errors that I can't be bothered to point to even a single one of them, and even if I did you wouldn't accept it so it is a waste of time trying".

Reasonable provisional conclusion: no LDS poster on this board has so far found a factual error on Mormonthink. (maybe they are scared to look in case their testimony gets damaged?).
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In defense of Why me, at least he tried to give examples.
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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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The site is full of hate facts, as anyone can see.
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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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sansfoy wrote:The site is full of hate facts, as anyone can see.


Please give two specific examples from Mormonthink of something you think qualifies as a 'hate fact'.

OK, I'll settle for one example. But you have to cite it explicitly, and tell us whether or not you think it is true, and if not, why not.

(I really do have a problem about seeing 'fact' which has almost inseparable connotations of something being true, in apposition to 'hate'. How can something be hateful it it is true? But I'll just settle for an example.)

Edited to add:
Sorry Sanfoy, was your post perhaps meant to be taken ironically? Unfortunately there are some people on this board who might mean it quite literally. If you do, see above.
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Re: A challenge to the board about Mormon Think...

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Drifting wrote:This question has been asked enough times recently for it to justify its own thread:

Can anyone, anyone at all, find something written on the Mormon Think website that is not factually accurate?


Edited to add: Please can someone start this exact thread on MDD and see how far it gets? (I am persona non grata there...)


From: Social Psychology of Betrayal: Discerning between Facts & Truth:

When a clear distinction is made between facts and Truth, we realize that words can be factual yet untrue at the same time; a person's words may be technically correct but when inward intent is not true . . . then only fact-speaking can occur — as opposed to Truth-telling. The distinguishing element is this: When the motive behind the message is false, then superficially accurate words are false from their foundations — this is the very meaning of empty rhetoric: words expressed without wholeness of heart.


I could phrase it in more blunt language, like why do you and other ex-Mormons run around seeking every opportunity you can to basically crap on Mormonism? At every opportunity. Not a dot or dash "worthy of criticism" (in your eyes) is missed by the "offenders for a word" - like you.

You've got "self-justification" and "A-G-E-N-D-A", written all over your forehead.

Now let me predict what your reply will include: You "like Mormons", or maybe you "are a Mormon", and you're "trying to be objective".

Maybe you even go to Church, bear testimony, and do what's required, but you're just addicted to sniffing the parrot crap at the bottom of the cage.
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