Science by its very definition is highly skeptical. We have to show by physical evidence every proposition. No one in over 150 years has been able to disprove Darwin's Theory. That life changes over time. Quit wasting your and my time with your silly links. Just disprove the Theory. I've already told you how to do it. Now go do it.
Yes, and I am highly skeptical of your research and the links you provide, also. I've heard it all before. Still not able to create biological life in 150 years. Still unable to observe the emergence of any new species. And after 150 years there exist far less species today than existed 150 years ago. No repeatable experiment that proves that God doesn't exist or that evolution is the reason man exists.
Whether or not Jesus existed, evolution is a well established and well supported fact, as even the majority of devoutly religious biologists will attest. So even if you manage to prove Jesus existed beyond any reasonable doubt, that has no significant bearing on whether or not evolution is true. Even the heliocentric solar system theory is not better supported by evidence than evolution. Anyone who denies that, either doesn't know or understand very much about evolution and the evidence supporting it or is dishonest. There are no other options. Whether or not there is a god, the evidence still overwhelmingly supports and confirms evolution. Do we know everything about how evolution works? Almost certainly not! There may still be holes in the theory, but as some have said, a fishnet has holes in it too, but that doesn't prevent it from being very effective at catching fish.
You cited John D. Morris to support your case, which only further damaged its credibility. There is no more dishonest charlatan in the world than John D. Morris!
Nor does it help your case to claim that belief in evolution leads to liberalism. To the extent that that is true, I don't regard that as necessarily bad. All the liberals I am personally acquainted with are admirable and compassionate people. Reality itself has a strong liberal bias. Besides that, not even all evolutionists are necessarily liberal. Even most of the politically conservative biologists accept the fact of evolution.
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No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Science by its very definition is highly skeptical. We have to show by physical evidence every proposition. No one in over 150 years has been able to disprove Darwin's Theory. That life changes over time. Quit wasting your and my time with your silly links. Just disprove the Theory. I've already told you how to do it. Now go do it.
Yes, and I am highly skeptical of your research and the links you provide, also. I've heard it all before. Still not able to create biological life in 150 years. Still unable to observe the emergence of any new species. And after 150 years there exist far less species today than existed 150 years ago. No repeatable experiment that proves that God doesn't exist or that evolution is the reason man exists.
The thing about science is anyone can disprove it. The Theory of Evolution has been around for over 150 years now, and not one person has been able to disprove it. That doesn't mean it can't. Make a name for yourself disprove it. I've already told you you a simple foolproof way to do it.
The exact same claims have been made by other religions written on clay/papyri/stone/metal long before the Bible existed. You can't use an ancient text to prove a Truth Claim. Science can't/doesn't work that way.
The Old Testament has been around thousands of years. The New Testament for nearly 2000 alone. Not one person has been able to disprove it. That doesn't mean it can't be. Make a name for yourself disprove it. Sorry, but scientists have NOT created life. They formulated a possible building block but not a living thing. Nature, it must be remembered DOES'T possess a brain. It doesn't think. Chemists have been trying to make gold out of lead for a millennia and they have never been able to make even one ounce.
Creationism - on its most basic level - simply and only means the belief in a Creator.
While my beloved Young Earth Creationists (YEC's) do believe in a literal translation of Genesis - As well as an earth than is approximately 10,000 years old - the YEC community is a fairly small portion of people that are found under the very large umbrella of Christianity.
Matthew 24:35-39 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. 36But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.
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LittleNipper wrote:Matthew 24:35-39 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. 36But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.
Ceeboo wrote:Creationism comes in a variety of flavors.
Creationism - on its most basic level - simply and only means the belief in a Creator.
While my beloved Young Earth Creationists (YEC's) do believe in a literal translation of Genesis - As well as an earth than is approximately 10,000 years old - the YEC community is a fairly small portion of people that are found under the very large umbrella of Christianity.
Peace, Ceeboo
Thank you for reemphasizing that CeeBoo. It is an important point. The Bible was not intended to serve as a science textbook, and Young Earth Creationists who insist on taking it as such do a tremendous disservice to both honest science and honest religion in general (especially to Christianity in particular). AaronRa was once a YEC himself, but he was fair minded enough to actually examine the scientific evidence and evaluate it honestly. This, plus the fact that leading creationists depended so heavily on easily exposed falsehoods and egregiously dishonest quote mining of real scientists , in attempts to make it look like the scientists were saying or implying exactly the opposite of what they were actually saying, eventually eroded away his religious faith down to nothing and caused him to disgustedly reject the Young Earth Creationism he was raised by his parents to believe in.
I would guess that the Young Earth Creationist movement has inadvertently done far more that the best efforts of Atheists to undermine religious faith and show religion, in general, in an unfavorable light. I bet that if LittleNipper realized how many people reading his extreme views were actually turned away from religious belief because of him, he would be greatly shocked and dismayed!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
There is a Utube video , Albert Mohler, why does the universe look so old.
Because i am old and lazy I have not learned to post a link. I suspect using utubes search you could find this if you actually want to review it. Mr Mohler is an up and coming leader of the group he is involved in and is committed to defending yec. He has studied enough to discouver that the universe really does look like it is old. It is not just a matter of science following assumptions to avoid god.
There is an explanation proposed. I am summerizing but I do not thnk badly. Much of the presentation is focused upon the necessessity of maintaining a literal interpretation in order not to lose the authority of scripture. But the world really does look old.......
The answer is that it looks old because God made it to look old and he is good and making things the way he wants to.
though I am completely not a young earth creationist. (I am a very old earth creationist) I know of no logical proof against this argument. So it could be, maybe, sort of.
But I have a very strong objection to this argument. It makes God a liar and a deceiver. I believe God is truth and does not deceive. Creation is a window into his heart. The universe looks old because it transparently is old.
I've heard it all before.
Still not able to create biological life in 150 years.
Still unable to observe the emergence of any new species.
No repeatable experiment that proves that God doesn't exist or that evolution is the reason man exists.
