Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
Post Reply
_Chap
_Emeritus
Posts: 14190
Joined: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:23 am

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Chap »

Icarus wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:28 pm
Herman Cain just died of COVID after taking Hydroxychloroquine since before he contracted it after attending a Trump Rally.

Let the cognitive dissonance begin.
https://www.fox23.com/news/trending/for ... Y3Q3VBALI/

It remained unclear Thursday how Cain contracted a coronavirus infection. The radio host, who traveled frequently, attended President Donald Trump’s rally on June 20 in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Yeah, but it could have been a load of other things too. Why do you hate President Trump so much! So much hate ... how can we have an election with so much hate??

Heeeey! That gives me an idea ....
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
_Themis
_Emeritus
Posts: 13426
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:43 pm

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Themis »

Gunnar wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:46 pm

It never fails. Every time I think you couldn't possibly make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have, you go ahead and prove me wrong. Dr. Fauchi is one of the world's foremost epidemiologists, and his record all his life in combatting disease has been stellar. He has served admirably through several Presidents and administrations, both democratic and republican. Taking the word of a demonstrable idiot and pathological liar like Trump over his is about as insane as anything I can imagine!
Subby is just trolling. I suspect he knows he is being dishonest about showing an image attaching statements never made by Dr. Fauchi.
42
_Icarus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1541
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:01 pm

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Icarus »

On Facebook everyone is upset with me for sharing this news even after I had to endure about 15 versions of their debunked Cure-All video from yesterday. They kept's uploading different versions because Facebook was deleting them.

One said he died because of Cancer.

Herman Cain had colon cancer back in 2006, and had beaten it. He had not undergone chemotherapy to compromise his immune system in over a decade.

People defending this drug are already backtracking saying it only cures some people, and then only people with no preexisting conditions. Heck, tens of millions of Americans have at least SOME kind of preexisting condition. They've moved the goal posts back so far that it is now impossible to prove to them the drug is useless.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
_Themis
_Emeritus
Posts: 13426
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:43 pm

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Themis »

Icarus wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:55 pm
On Facebook everyone is upset with me for sharing this news even after I had to endure about 15 versions of their debunked Cure-All video from yesterday. They kept's uploading different versions because Facebook was deleting them.
The sad thing is the only reason they keep up this idiocy is because Trump promoted it.
42
_Gunnar
_Emeritus
Posts: 6315
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Gunnar »

Themis wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:48 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:46 pm

It never fails. Every time I think you couldn't possibly make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have, you go ahead and prove me wrong. Dr. Fauchi is one of the world's foremost epidemiologists, and his record all his life in combatting disease has been stellar. He has served admirably through several Presidents and administrations, both democratic and republican. Taking the word of a demonstrable idiot and pathological liar like Trump over his is about as insane as anything I can imagine!
Subby is just trolling. I suspect he knows he is being dishonest about showing an image attaching statements never made by Dr. Fauchi.
Yes, I know he's just trolling. That seems to be his main, if not his only purpose in posting to this forum at all. That only makes him all the more foolish, IMHO. He seldom, if ever, even attempts to add anything worthwhile to the discussion, as far as I can tell.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
_Doctor Steuss
_Emeritus
Posts: 4597
Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:57 pm

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Doctor Steuss »

[Deleted -- thought better of it]
Last edited by Reflexzero on Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
_Dr Exiled
_Emeritus
Posts: 3616
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:48 am

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Dr Exiled »

Themis wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:49 pm
Icarus wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:55 pm
On Facebook everyone is upset with me for sharing this news even after I had to endure about 15 versions of their debunked Cure-All video from yesterday. They kept's uploading different versions because Facebook was deleting them.
The sad thing is the only reason they keep up this idiocy is because Trump promoted it.
I don't think prohibiting some information from getting out is the way to fight misinformation. It will just end up stoking the conspiracy theories. In this case, there are doctors who are promoting Hydroxychloroquine combined with zinc and erythromycin. They claim it works. https://publichealth.yale.edu/news-article/26218/ Maybe it's BS, maybe it's not. But let's not suppress the information. Let's see if there is some truth to these Doctor's claims.

Keep in mind that the Lancelet study that supposedly showed that hydroxychloroquine didn't work was recently retracted due to faulty data. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020060 ... uine-study. Perhaps the key is using lower doses combined with zinc and antibiotics?

For me, I don't really care what works, as long as it works.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen 
_Some Schmo
_Emeritus
Posts: 15602
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:59 pm

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Some Schmo »

Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:59 pm
I don't think prohibiting some information from getting out is the way to fight misinformation.
Even if that misinformation is potentially lethal?

According to the Surgeon General... sharks make great pets. Adopt a great white today!
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
_Dr Exiled
_Emeritus
Posts: 3616
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:48 am

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _Dr Exiled »

Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:32 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:59 pm
I don't think prohibiting some information from getting out is the way to fight misinformation.
Even if that misinformation is potentially lethal?

According to the Surgeon General... sharks make great pets. Adopt a great white today!
We shouldn't have too many limits on speech when bad speech can be discounted with better speech. Shouting fire in a crowded theater when there isn't one is a good example of a limit. This isn't one of them. In the hydroxychoroquine debate, it seems to be a debate among doctors, experts. Let the debate play out. We are early in the corona virus pandemic and it seems too early to eliminate anything.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen 
_ajax18
_Emeritus
Posts: 6914
Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am

Re: Frontline Doctor Dispels Covid Fear

Post by _ajax18 »

Even if that misinformation is potentially lethal?
Every time you put a pill in your mouth is an experiment. We're not willing to risk much in medicine these days and because of this I'd say more often than not many treatments do little to nothing. I understand the first duty is to do no harm. But sometimes you have to take chances if you want a shot at a better quality of life.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Post Reply