DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
User avatar
Kishkumen
God
Posts: 10376
Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:37 pm
Location: Cassius University
Contact:

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by Kishkumen »

Dr Moore wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:46 am

Yeah the Soviet Russian reversal meme is a bit tired. :)
As is the “see how hard the GAs work” meme.
"He disturbs the laws of his country, he forces himself upon women, and he puts men to death without trial.” ~Otanes on the monarch, Herodotus Histories 3.80.
Lem
God
Posts: 2456
Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:46 am

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by Lem »

Tom wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:29 pm
I assume he's referring to Bruce Porter.
This from that link was pretty revealing:
However, while Bruce was called to serve as the Gospel Doctrine teacher I was given no substantial calling at all.

I was somewhat puzzled by this.
User avatar
Doctor Scratch
B.H. Roberts Chair of Mopologetic Studies
Posts: 1660
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:24 pm
Location: Cassius University

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by Doctor Scratch »

Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:50 am
Dr Moore wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:46 am

Yeah the Soviet Russian reversal meme is a bit tired. :)
As is the “see how hard the GAs work” meme.
One of the Mopologists’ main goals has always been to try and convince the rank-and-file that the Brethren are no different from them. Except for the Ivy League PhDs, of course. But apart from that? No difference at all.
"If, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
User avatar
Everybody Wang Chung
God
Posts: 3700
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:52 am

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by Everybody Wang Chung »

Lem wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:39 am
Tom wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:29 pm
I assume he's referring to Bruce Porter.
This from that link was pretty revealing:
However, while Bruce was called to serve as the Gospel Doctrine teacher I was given no substantial calling at all.

I was somewhat puzzled by this.


I guess DCP has failed to grasp this most basic of teachings.

“Serving faithfully in a calling is more important than what the calling is.”

“The Lord requires our hearts and minds, and there is no calling that is above another, or more important than another. All are needed and are an important part of Christ’s Church.”

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... h?lang=eng

https://www.mormonwiki.com/Mormon_Callings
"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."

Daniel C. Peterson, 2014
User avatar
Doctor Steuss
God
Posts: 2528
Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:48 pm

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by Doctor Steuss »

From what I can gather, GAs appear to have schedules similar to Relief Society Presidents, and Elders Quorum Presidents, but without the need to simultaneously find ways to make financial ends meet.
Dr Exiled
God
Posts: 2244
Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:40 pm

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by Dr Exiled »

Doctor Scratch wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:59 am
Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:50 am


As is the “see how hard the GAs work” meme.
One of the Mopologists’ main goals has always been to try and convince the rank-and-file that the Brethren are no different from them. Except for the Ivy League PhDs, of course. But apart from that? No difference at all.
This meme doesn't work if taken to the logical conclusion, at least from an apologist perspective. The GA's are ordinary as in there isn't anything inspiring about them, showing that "God" is with them. They are merely ordinary business executives that claim their business meetings are somehow inspired because they say so.
Myth is misused by the powerful to subjugate the masses all too often.
MG 2.0
God
Posts: 8273
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:45 pm

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by MG 2.0 »

Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:48 pm
The GA's are ordinary as in there isn't anything inspiring about them, showing that "God" is with them. They are merely ordinary business executives that claim their business meetings are somehow inspired because they say so.
I know you’re stating this as your opinion and not as a matter of fact, but it should be pointed out that there are a whole lot of folks that would disagree with you.

Just sayin’.

I would doubt that when the GA’s are sitting in on board meetings that they are claiming inspiration every minute or in every word that comes out of their mouth or even primary driver of every decision they make.

Although they may very well be trying to do the best they can.

When they are speaking over the pulpit, however, I personally believe that ‘God is with them’. But I realize you and others here will disagree. That’s OK.

Regards,
MG
Dr Exiled
God
Posts: 2244
Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:40 pm

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by Dr Exiled »

MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:16 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:48 pm
The GA's are ordinary as in there isn't anything inspiring about them, showing that "God" is with them. They are merely ordinary business executives that claim their business meetings are somehow inspired because they say so.
I know you’re stating this as your opinion and not as a matter of fact, but it should be pointed out that there are a whole lot of folks that would disagree with you.

Just sayin’.

I would doubt that when the GA’s are sitting in on board meetings that they are claiming inspiration every minute or in every word that comes out of their mouth or even primary driver of every decision they make.

Although they may very well be trying to do the best they can.

When they are speaking over the pulpit, however, I personally believe that ‘God is with them’. But I realize you and others here will disagree. That’s OK.

Regards,
MG
So, do you think the schedule changes were inspired? How about the decision to discontinue financial disclosure? How about how God supposedly allowed his prophet to trumpet a huge conference celebration for the first vision in 2020 only to have covid shut it down? How about inspiring a cure? Or at least giving a warning? Instead, we have supposed "revelation" cure mistakes like in the November policy exclusion. Supposed "revelation" to shorten the meetings because people are bored to tears with the monotonous repetition. Priesthood blessings are a joke, having to be couched in language to cover their ineffectiveness and to blame the people when they don't work.

So, where is the inspiration?
Myth is misused by the powerful to subjugate the masses all too often.
MG 2.0
God
Posts: 8273
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:45 pm

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by MG 2.0 »

Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:40 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:16 pm


I know you’re stating this as your opinion and not as a matter of fact, but it should be pointed out that there are a whole lot of folks that would disagree with you.

Just sayin’.

I would doubt that when the GA’s are sitting in on board meetings that they are claiming inspiration every minute or in every word that comes out of their mouth or even primary driver of every decision they make.

Although they may very well be trying to do the best they can.

When they are speaking over the pulpit, however, I personally believe that ‘God is with them’. But I realize you and others here will disagree. That’s OK.

Regards,
MG
So, do you think the schedule changes were inspired? How about the decision to discontinue financial disclosure? How about how God supposedly allowed his prophet to trumpet a huge conference celebration for the first vision in 2020 only to have covid shut it down? How about inspiring a cure? Or at least giving a warning? Instead, we have supposed "revelation" cure mistakes like in the November policy exclusion. Supposed "revelation" to shorten the meetings because people are bored to tears with the monotonous repetition. Priesthood blessings are a joke, having to be couched in language to cover their ineffectiveness and to blame the people when they don't work.

So, where is the inspiration?
Why must God micromanage everything? Let’s assume that He doesn’t. If that is so, where would you draw the line? And how would you know if where you draw the line is where God draws the line?

If men/women are allowed to make decisions based upon the data that they have, are you expecting that God steps in at every juncture/point to do course corrections? That would be ludicrous to think so. I think we can agree on that point.

So again, where are those ‘borderlands’ where God steps in or doesn’t?

You seem to want to make those decisions in the place of God Almighty. That’s quite a load you’re taking on yourself, especially not knowing the end from the beginning.

Not by a long stretch.

Regards,
MG
consiglieri
Holy Ghost
Posts: 897
Joined: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:48 am

Re: DCP: A General Authority Complained of “Piss-Stinking” Foyers in Russia

Post by consiglieri »

All Q15 meetings are board meetings.

What do you think the Q15 is?
Post Reply