The Church Tells DCP, Midgley, Ostler, McGregor, Scott Lloyd and The Mopologists To Quit Posting Online.

[malkie]

Modern companies who care about their brand image, including the church, conduct surveys to better understand how customers feel about product experiences, perceive brand values, and resonate with marketing messages. Utah is home to one of the largest "customer experience" intelligence companies, Qualtrics, and that company now takes in over $1 billion a year in revenue from businesses around the world who care enough to ask questions and hear answers.

Increasingly, business leaders everywhere are showing appreciation for the truth that without a complete intake of this customer experience information, they are flying blind in this fast-moving world. And flying blind guarantees eventual crash landing.

So here's the deal, folks. If those out on the forefront of online Mopologetics, such as FAIR, Interpreter, and Dan's prolific Sic et Non, really do care about how their activity and cyberspace personas land on member and non-member seekers, then they should be working just as hard to gather a full spectrum of "customer" perception data.

This isn't setting up an email address and waiting for "reviews" to come in. It means utilizing online tools to actively solicit feedback, on a continuous basis, from all consumers of the product. And then, taking that information to do a better job.

And yes, it goes without saying, there is the problem of critics spamming the survey base. So what? Every company has that problem.

But that's a lame excuse for not making an effort. You can't sort signal from noise without first gathering the data.

For Mopologists not make such an effort displays one of two things: reckless ignorance, or dangerous arrogance.

There is no alternative "good" explanation for those guys to foot stomp at critics while simultaneously sidestepping the arduous task of soliciting customer experience feedback, carefully combing through that data, and importantly, adjusting their product accordingly.

This isn't rocket science.

Lastly, simply declaring that one's activity is not demeaning or bullying doesn't reduce the feeling of being demeaned or bullied.

Yes, but ...

As apologists of all sorts, in diverse places, have noted,

"We are justified in being as nasty as we are to these guys because they deserve it!

If the prophet can be wrong about (insert whatever the apologist disagrees with) then he may be wrong about this, so we don't have to pay any heed to this admonition.

Anyway, it's these other guys he's really talking to - he didn't mention us by name - I and my buddies are the good guys, and are guaranteed to be doing the right thing."

[Bought Yahoo]

I certainly have taken the Church's mandate to heart. No longer will I call out the idiots and morons here for what they are.

[Philo Sofee]

I certainly have taken the Church's mandate to heart. No longer will I call out the idiots and morons here for what they are.

If it calls for it, I certainly will. The church does not own my mind or thinking whatsoever. Just because they say to do something or believe something is no law to me. I use my own brain and inspiration for that. I no longer see the value of bowing to their every beck and call because they come up with something or update - finally! If someone is being an idiot, you can bet I will be saying so. If their argument is stupid, I will call it, whether it's Russell or Daniel, Lou, or a Parawon Sister.... They no longer get to tell me how to talk, they get to change if they don't like the criticism.

[Marcus]

“Social media commenters: Your church has added strong wording to its General Handbook, condemning “threatening, bullying, degrading, violent, or otherwise abusive language or images online.”

No groups or individuals are specifically named, but there is no exception for those claiming to defend The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints . . . who frequently employ harsh rhetoric to attack church critics or Latter-day Saint progressives.”

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/12 ... t-online/I

Midgley, having learned nothing, commenting on the very blog entry discussing this topic:

Louis Midgley. 10 hours ago

...He (or those) from a certain sewer, the name of which I no longer know, since it has, I believe, had to change its identity, really have come to sic et non to entertain itself or themselves with mischief. And to try to justify having made some bad choices or whatever base things drive such weird behavior.

[drumdude]

It’s bizarre seeing a 90 plus year old act like a 15 year old internet troll. He was definitely born before his time, most 90 year olds I know wouldn’t spend their time hurling internet hand grenades.

[Fence Sitter]

It’s bizarre seeing a 90 plus year old act like a 15 year old internet troll. He was definitely born before his time, most 90 year olds I know wouldn’t spend their time hurling internet hand grenades.

Dr. Midgley has always enjoyed an argument. It is a game to him.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

It’s bizarre seeing a 90 plus year old act like a 15 year old internet troll. He was definitely born before his time, most 90 year olds I know wouldn’t spend their time hurling internet hand grenades.

Dr. Midgley has always enjoyed an argument. It is a game to him.

It’s a game to him when he has top cover. It’s a psychologically fracturing experience for him when he steps outside of that protective bubble. Anyway. He’s a coward who should’ve had his ears boxed 50 years ago.

- Doc

[Philo Sofee]

It’s bizarre seeing a 90 plus year old act like a 15 year old internet troll. He was definitely born before his time, most 90 year olds I know wouldn’t spend their time hurling internet hand grenades.

Dr. Midgley has always enjoyed an argument. It is a game to him.

I have seen this way concerning him for quite a while. He doesn't really believe in Jesus Christ anymore than Daniel C. Peterson does. He certainly doesn't believe Joseph Smith was an actual prophet and restored truth of any kind. As to the scriptures, he uses them as intellectual fodder, something to talk about to show off his intelligence, what little there actually is. It really is a game to him. He wants to be seen as top dog intelligent, not as a loving, believing Latter Day Saint. For him intellectual back and forth with intimidating name calling is vastly more fulfilling than actually loving others and helping convert them into belief. Neither of them really believe what they profess. Their activities online demonstrate that continually. I would not be the least surprised if neither one of them actually fasted and prayed for any length of time during a day, a week, or month. They just don't act like Latter Day Saints. They are intellectual snobs, and not too good at it either.

[Moksha]

I certainly have taken the Church's mandate to heart.

Do you think this mandate will be treated as "eat meat sparingly"?

[Marcus]

DanielPeterson Mod FDH • 2 hours ago • edited

Incidentally, for what little it's worth, “Chewbarker,” “Bark Chewer,” “Professor Sham Wow,” “Chapstick,” “Cobra Kai 4 Life,” “Defund the Police,” and probably at least two or three others have all been the same tiresome, obsessive, and, it eventually turns out, extremely nasty individual -- seemingly from the Peterson Obsession Board....

What does 'seemingly' mean? Does this mean that Peterson thinks that the only people who read his blog that might disagree with him are also posters here (an astonishingly arrogant assumption, given the sheer number of people he's communicated with in his lifetime), or, as moderator of a Patheos blog, is he revealing information that the Patheos site says is considered private and will not be revealed?

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