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The MAGA focus on Biden's use of an auto pen is hilarious, since Trump is practically illiterate.
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canpakes wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 7:19 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 5:14 pm
I'm surprised that more wasn't made out of President Trump plainly stating "“I don’t know when it was signed, because I didn’t sign it" in regards to the proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act. That's a huge problem that people in the current administration are just running around signing Trump's signature to things without his knowledge that are being ruled illegal and unconstitutional. I think I saw one video clip, and a CNN article... and then *poof* buried into the void.

I guess an actual admission to not knowing about the signing of a Presidential Proclamation isn't as juicy as a conspiracy. Hopefully, between Biden and Trump, the next administration will look at the situation(s) and implement more robust safeguards around autopens and digital signatures.

In the meantime, I guess we all just enjoy the nebulous ride of "I wonder who signed that."
Interesting. Trump didn’t sign this?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... de-aragua/

And he admitted publicly that he doesn’t know who did, or if he has even read it?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/21/politics ... src-digvid

So Trump doesn’t know what EOs or proclamations are being issued in his name or who is signing off on them. This must be the sort of example that Markk is looking for.
Your second link does not work.

He signed it here....or it is a auto pen and he lied or the white house lied.

https://www.aila.org/library/presidenti ... -de-aragua


He knows about the act and indorsed it, and is certainly aware of it. I am okay if we press the White House on this in that it is important to know how the autopen works, and how authority is given to use it and who has the coded cards.

Are you okay to find out what Biden signed, what was autopenned, and what he knew and understood?
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Fri May 23, 2025 7:58 pm
He knows about the act and indorsed it, and is certainly aware of it. I am okay if we press the White House on this in that it is important to know how the autopen works, and how authority is given to use it and who has the coded cards.

Are you okay to find out what Biden signed, what was autopenned, and what he knew and understood?
OK. Give details on how you will determine what a given President ‘understands’ about the content of autopen-signed documents, and what penalties or actions should be taken for situations where an independent panel determines that a particular level of understanding was not met.

You’ll need to start with the current President, as he has already admitted to not signing things that purportedly show his signature, and because it would make no sense to excuse him from examination if you interpret the use of an autopen to be an urgent matter worth investigating.

We can probably begin after we conclude with the teleprompter investigations, which will also need to start with the present guy. : D
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Molok wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 1:47 pm
Can anyone show me a video of Biden signing executive orders that he has no idea what they're about? I've seen that about 5 or 6 times with Trump now, but obviously Biden is what we should be concerned about....for some reason. Lol. Markkk indeed.
No kidding. This demonstrates how MAGAs are still obsessed with bashing Biden they don't know how to cope with the fact that the current President is their guy and he is demonstrating far worse cognitive decline than Biden ever did.
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Vēritās wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:47 pm
Molok wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 1:47 pm
Can anyone show me a video of Biden signing executive orders that he has no idea what they're about? I've seen that about 5 or 6 times with Trump now, but obviously Biden is what we should be concerned about....for some reason. Lol. Markkk indeed.
No kidding. This demonstrates how MAGAs are still obsessed with bashing Biden they don't know how to cope with the fact that the current President is their guy and he is demonstrating far worse cognitive decline than Biden ever did.
Lol...you can call the guy an a-hole or what ever you want but cognitive decline is really funny. The guy has given more interviews in a month than Biden did in four years, he is flying all over the world, he plays golf and even wins tournaments.....you golf don't you? The guy can play. Did you watch the break 50 with Bryson? The guy has got to be a legit single digit HC.

https://youtu.be/6Rb9b8rYhII?t=4


Here is Biden, this is just sad that you can't deal with the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jehSxZkGzzI
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Markk wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 11:54 pm
Vēritās wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 9:47 pm


No kidding. This demonstrates how MAGAs are still obsessed with bashing Biden they don't know how to cope with the fact that the current President is their guy and he is demonstrating far worse cognitive decline than Biden ever did.
Lol...you can call the guy an a-hole or what ever you want but cognitive decline is really funny. The guy has given more interviews in a month than Biden did in four years, he is flying all over the world, he plays golf and even wins tournaments.....you golf don't you? The guy can play. Did you watch the break 50 with Bryson? The guy has got to be a legit single digit HC.

https://youtu.be/6Rb9b8rYhII?t=4


Here is Biden, this is just sad that you can't deal with the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jehSxZkGzzI
Is that your way of admitting that No you have never seen Joe Biden sign an executive order that he didn’t know the contents of? Here’s a fun quote from your cognitive champion he gave this month, and it’s not even close to the most egregious example of his mush mouthed vocabulary:
You go back 10 years, I mean Israel was protected by Congress,” he continued. “And now, Congress is just doing numbers that are unbelievable with I think a very, very small group of people within Congress and it’s gotta stop. But we have to go back to the roots. We have to protect, we have to stop the antisemitism that’s just pervading our country right now and Biden has to do something .
That quite literally makes no sense. Why can’t you just be honest enough to admit that your fake concern for cognitive decline and only goes one way? You aren’t fooling anyone.
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Molok wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 1:21 am
Markk wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 11:54 pm


Lol...you can call the guy an a-hole or what ever you want but cognitive decline is really funny. The guy has given more interviews in a month than Biden did in four years, he is flying all over the world, he plays golf and even wins tournaments.....you golf don't you? The guy can play. Did you watch the break 50 with Bryson? The guy has got to be a legit single digit HC.

https://youtu.be/6Rb9b8rYhII?t=4


Here is Biden, this is just sad that you can't deal with the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jehSxZkGzzI
Is that your way of admitting that No you have never seen Joe Biden sign an executive order that he didn’t know the contents of? Here’s a fun quote from your cognitive champion he gave this month, and it’s not even close to the most egregious example of his mush mouthed vocabulary:
You go back 10 years, I mean Israel was protected by Congress,” he continued. “And now, Congress is just doing numbers that are unbelievable with I think a very, very small group of people within Congress and it’s gotta stop. But we have to go back to the roots. We have to protect, we have to stop the antisemitism that’s just pervading our country right now and Biden has to do something .
That quite literally makes no sense. Why can’t you just be honest enough to admit that your fake concern for cognitive decline and only goes one way? You aren’t fooling anyone.
When did he say that, and in what context?

You can say a lot of things about Trump, cognitive decline is not one of them.
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Markk wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 1:33 am
When did he say that, and in what context?
Here’s a link for you, including audio within the X post from that link:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/Trump-unleas ... v0h27He_aV

For any weird thing said by Biden that you could find and post, there will be 10 more from Trump that can be posted, with all of them being less comprehensible than your own exhibits. You know that’s true.
You can say a lot of things about Trump, cognitive decline is not one of them.
Given that a person needs to first achieve a certain level of cognitive development before they can decline from it, perhaps there’s some truth to your statement.
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canpakes wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:04 am

https://www.yahoo.com/news/Trump-unleas ... v0h27He_aV

For any weird thing said by Biden that you could find and post, there will be 10 more from Trump that can be posted, with all of them being less comprehensible than your own exhibits. You know that’s true.
You can say a lot of things about Trump, cognitive decline is not one of them.
Given that a person needs to first achieve a certain level of cognitive development before they can decline from it, perhaps there’s some truth to your statement.
That link didn't work for me.
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Gunnar wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:18 am
That link didn't work for me.
Let me know if this direct X link does the trick -

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1785493527775826422
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