Was Trump's final tweet intended to tip off his minions that the Inauguration would be a safe target?

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Re: Was Trump's final tweet intended to tip off his minions that the Inauguration would be a safe target?

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Nomomo wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:36 pm
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:21 pm
Tump told the crowds to remain peaceful and respect the police and most were. He can't control all the crowd. That's the job for the police. Yet, the capitol police inexplicably let the protesters in when they shouldn't have and the DC Mayor had asked for national guard units to be there as well. The Guard commanders agreed, yet the Guard wasn't around for some reason. Had the police and Guard done their jobs, it might have been a different outcome.
So you support Trump's delight and excitedly watching of the storming of the Capitol on TV with delight and pleasure without lifting a finger to call in or check on reinforcements, or anyone's safety.

I suppose next you will tell us that that is not his job. (especially since he is too busy delightedly enjoying watching it all on TV)
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Dr Exiled wrote:
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Trump told the crowds to remain peaceful and respect the police and most were.


Show me. Show me where and when he said that. Link me to it. Put it right in my face.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:59 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
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Trump told the crowds to remain peaceful and respect the police and most were.


Show me. Show me where and when he said that. Link me to it. Put it right in my face.
Google the transcript from his speech. He kind of half asses it, with those pretty much exact words. If he had had a mustache he would've been twirling it while saying those words, though.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:05 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:59 pm


Show me. Show me where and when he said that. Link me to it. Put it right in my face.
Google the transcript from his speech. He kind of half asses it, with those pretty much exact words. If he had had a mustache he would've been twirling it while saying those words, though.

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Again, I point to Trump's actions after he spoke. Did he call out the National Guard? No. Nor did call his Vice President, who was under seige from Trump supporters shouting HANG MIKE PENCE! He was calling Congressmen to change their vote. That was his priority while the Capitol was under seige. He only made his video statement because his lawyers convinced him it would mitigate future charges of aiding and abetting sedition.

Given his words and deeds before, during and after the election, to point to that video statement as being the true indicator of the President's intentions is laughable.
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Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:15 pm
Again, I point to Trump's actions after he spoke. Did he call out the National Guard? No. Nor did call his Vice President, who was under seige from Trump supporters shouting HANG MIKE PENCE! He was calling Congressmen to change their vote. That was his priority while the Capitol was under seige. He only made his video statement because his lawyers convinced him it would mitigate future charges of aiding and abetting sedition.

Given his words and deeds before, during and after the election, to point to that video statement as being the true indicator of the President's intentions is laughable.
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Again, I point to Trump's actions after he spoke. Did he call out the National Guard? No. Nor did call his Vice President, who was under seige from Trump supporters shouting HANG MIKE PENCE! He was calling Congressmen to change their vote. That was his priority while the Capitol was under seige. He only made his video statement because his lawyers convinced him it would mitigate future charges of aiding and abetting sedition.

Given his words and deeds before, during and after the election, to point to that video statement as being the true indicator of the President's intentions is laughable.
It seems Pence and Trump still have not spoken since that day, which is astonishing.
ABC News’ Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl said Sunday morning that “since that moment when Mike Pence was rushed out of the Senate, taken to a secure location under attack … the president has not spoken to him,” echoing reports from multiple outlets that Trump did not check in with Pence during the siege, when the vice president was sheltering at the Capitol, or after.

Videos of the Capitol break-in show members of the mob chanting “hang Mike Pence” inside the building, while a Reuters photographer on the scene said he heard multiple rioters at the Capitol say they hoped to find Pence and hang him from a Capitol Hill tree “as a traitor” for not trying to block certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win by Congress.

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Lem wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:30 pm
MeDotOrg wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:15 pm
Again, I point to Trump's actions after he spoke. Did he call out the National Guard? No. Nor did call his Vice President, who was under seige from Trump supporters shouting HANG MIKE PENCE! He was calling Congressmen to change their vote. That was his priority while the Capitol was under seige. He only made his video statement because his lawyers convinced him it would mitigate future charges of aiding and abetting sedition.

Given his words and deeds before, during and after the election, to point to that video statement as being the true indicator of the President's intentions is laughable.
It seems Pence and Trump still have not spoken since that day, which is astonishing.
ABC News’ Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl said Sunday morning that “since that moment when Mike Pence was rushed out of the Senate, taken to a secure location under attack … the president has not spoken to him,” echoing reports from multiple outlets that Trump did not check in with Pence during the siege, when the vice president was sheltering at the Capitol, or after.

Videos of the Capitol break-in show members of the mob chanting “hang Mike Pence” inside the building, while a Reuters photographer on the scene said he heard multiple rioters at the Capitol say they hoped to find Pence and hang him from a Capitol Hill tree “as a traitor” for not trying to block certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win by Congress.

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Sigh. The DC Mayor isn’t in charge of the Capitol. She has no jurisdiction over Capitol security. She requested some NG to help with traffic control, and she got them. That let her concentrate her officers on the streets bordering the protest where she had jurisdiction. The illegal breaking and entering of the Capitol has zero to do with the DC Police.

There is exactly one. One video of a selfie. There are dozens and dozens of videos of rioters attacking the Capitol Police as they tried to defend the Capitol. The rioters put a bunch of officers in the hospital and killed one. Every one of those rioters knew it was wrong to break into the Capitol, to try and hunt down and intimidate legislators, and for some, to hurt or kill them. They knew it was wrong to assault reporters, to destroy their equipment. They knew it was wrong, yet they did it anyway.

To try and blame this on the officers as if it’s their fault that people rioted is disgusting. But when you ask where the National Guard was, who is in charge of the DC Guard? The DOD. And who is the God Damned commander in chief? And what did he do when the riot started? Not a God Damned thing. Other than having his press Secretary falsely claim that he sent in the Guard.

So where was the CIC? While Congress was under armed attack by a mob, his lawyers were calling congress members to pressure them to go ahead with the plan to try and steal the election.

But back to the rioters. Why did they think it was okay to attack Police officers? To break into the Capitol? To try to intimidate Congress? Why?

Because they’d been lied to by the President of the United States for two months. They’d been whipped up to the point that they thought they had to do all that to “save the country.” They’d been whipped up and incited by a series of speakers, capped off by the President.

All Trump had to do was admit he’d lost. No protest. No riot. No dead people. He just had to tell them the truth.

To pretend as if he has no responsibility in this is both absurd and dangerous. You want Medicare for all? You’re never going to see it by pretending this was all the fault of the Capitol Police.
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