Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

[ceeboo]

[Res Ipsa]

How ‘bout them Mariners?

[canpakes]

Also, the huge pressure wave created by the bullet at that location so close to the carotid artery would have instantly stopped and destroyed the heart, explaining why there was so little blood coming out of the entry wound.

Gunnar, this statement puzzles me. I unfortunately saw a video of the moment that the bullet hit Kirk. The resulting fountain of blood exiting the wound was something that I would have regarded as comically exaggerated if it was a scene in a b-movie horror flick made by a troupe of community college acting students.

If anyone would wonder why they were seeing ‘so little blood coming out of the entry wound’, I’d figure that it’s because probably a quarter of all of Kirk’s blood exited in the first 3 seconds, and his heart was no longer pumping past that point.

Anyway, consider that if you don’t work in the medical field, maybe don’t watch that video.

[Bret Ripley]

How ‘bout them Mariners?

I just realized there's a chance that Seattle's first opponent in the playoffs will be the Tigers, in which case Ceeboo and I will temporarily be mortal enemies. We'll try to keep the collateral damage to a minimum.

[Res Ipsa]

How ‘bout them Mariners?

I just realized there's a chance that Seattle's first opponent in the playoffs will be the Tigers, in which case Ceeboo and I will temporarily be mortal enemies. We'll try to keep the collateral damage to a minimum.

Mediation services are available.

[ceeboo]

How ‘bout them Mariners?

I just realized there's a chance that Seattle's first opponent in the playoffs will be the Tigers, in which case Ceeboo and I will temporarily be mortal enemies. We'll try to keep the collateral damage to a minimum.

I think we are going to have our hands full with Cleveland - If we should make it past the Guardians, dismantling Seattle will be a breeze.

(Kidding - I think Seattle has a pretty good shot at being in the WS this year)

[Res Ipsa]

I just realized there's a chance that Seattle's first opponent in the playoffs will be the Tigers, in which case Ceeboo and I will temporarily be mortal enemies. We'll try to keep the collateral damage to a minimum.

I think we are going to have our hands full with Cleveland - If we should make it past the Guardians, dismantling Seattle will be a breeze.

(Kidding - I think Seattle has a pretty good shot at being in the WS this year)

It does look to be a fun playoff season.

[Marcus]

How ‘bout them Mariners?

I just realized there's a chance that Seattle's first opponent in the playoffs will be the Tigers, in which case Ceeboo and I will temporarily be mortal enemies. We'll try to keep the collateral damage to a minimum.

I don't know, Cleveland beat Detroit 9 out of 13 games this year. The Mariners might be safe from the Tigers!

[Whiskey]

Roberts, Cora, Francona and Hinch have all won a WS.

Wouldn’t bet against any of them.

[Gunnar]

Also, the huge pressure wave created by the bullet at that location so close to the carotid artery would have instantly stopped and destroyed the heart, explaining why there was so little blood coming out of the entry wound.

Gunnar, this statement puzzles me. I unfortunately saw a video of the moment that the bullet hit Kirk. The resulting fountain of blood exiting the wound was something that I would have regarded as comically exaggerated if it was a scene in a b-movie horror flick made by a troupe of community college acting students.

If anyone would wonder why they were seeing ‘so little blood coming out of the entry wound’, I’d figure that it’s because probably a quarter of all of Kirk’s blood exited in the first 3 seconds, and his heart was no longer pumping past that point.

Anyway, consider that if you don’t work in the medical field, maybe don’t watch that video.

I corrected the URL to one that works. The creator of the video was Chris Martenson who claims to have a PHD in pathology from Duke University with a subspecialty in toxicology and has some expertise in ballistics and that he and his team have had experience and expertise in investigating and analyzing gunshot deaths. I was a bit sleepy when I posted the video, and incorrectly remembered what he said about the blood. The issue was not about the quantity of the blood (there was certainly a lot of it! My bad! ). The issue was how it seemingly came out at once instead of in spurts, as it would have if it came from the carotid artery, if the heart was still beating. It makes sense to me that that the massive shockwave caused by the impact would have instantly damaged the heart enough to stop it from beating. This seems all the more plausible if the bullet came to rest after having been deflected into the chest cavity as Dr. Martenson suggested. https://youtu.be/GLiv8MAzw9s?t=3120. Is that where the bullet was found? I searched and couldn't find for sure if that was the case. I don't know if he just assumed that or learned it from reading the actual autopsy report. If that is the case, his physics analysis of how the bullet would have to have deflected at an improbably sharp angle to wind up there makes sense, if the known angular direction from Robinson's position to the murder victim is as reported.

But I can't know for sure if he actually read the real autopsy report or if he was just speculating from an unexpert analysis of the available videos of the event. So, I acknowledge that my own interpretation what he said could very well be mistaken. He admits, himself, that his opinion might well change if he had access to the full autopsy report and the current state of the investigation.

But thanks for reading and reanalyzing what I posted and showing me where I might have erred or might have been too gullible.