Israel

[¥akaSteelhead]

Two state solution.

The Palestinians have been offered a two state solution many times. They're not interested. When they tell you that they want nothing less than to exterminate every Jew from the river to the sea because the Koran dictates it, you need to believe them whether it's something you would view as moral and rational or even in their own best interests or not. They don't think like you do. They don't believe the same things you do and you're not going to change that. Nation building by the US in the Middle East has been a colossal waste of money and a failure. Just let Israel and Palestine fight it out and try to keep it from turning into a global world war.

If a force majeure showed up and kicked us off of 2/3 of the United States. Said we all have to move to a spots west of Colorado as the force majeure was going to repopulate indigenous Americans from wherever they may now be found: NA, SA, CA, Europe, wherever and create a nation for them on their ancestral homelands..... would you accept a two state solution of the western seaboard? How many Jews were in the area at the turn of the 20th century again?

[Morley]

The Palestinians have been offered a two state solution many times. They're not interested. When they tell you that they want nothing less than to exterminate every Jew from the river to the sea because the Koran dictates it, you need to believe them whether it's something you would view as moral and rational or even in their own best interests or not. They don't think like you do. They don't believe the same things you do and you're not going to change that. Nation building by the US in the Middle East has been a colossal waste of money and a failure. Just let Israel and Palestine fight it out and try to keep it from turning into a global world war.

If a force majeure showed up and kicked us off of 2/3 of the United States. Said we all have to move to a spots west of Colorado as the force majeure was going to repopulate indigenous Americans from wherever they may now be found: NA, SA, CA, Europe, wherever and create a nation for them on their ancestral homelands..... would you accept a two state solution of the western seaboard? How many Jews were in the area at the turn of the 20th century again?

[Cue an Ajax18 reply about the injustices suffered by the Confederacy both during and after the American Civil War.]

[ajax18]

The Palestinians have been offered a two state solution many times. They're not interested. When they tell you that they want nothing less than to exterminate every Jew from the river to the sea because the Koran dictates it, you need to believe them whether it's something you would view as moral and rational or even in their own best interests or not. They don't think like you do. They don't believe the same things you do and you're not going to change that. Nation building by the US in the Middle East has been a colossal waste of money and a failure. Just let Israel and Palestine fight it out and try to keep it from turning into a global world war.

If a force majeure showed up and kicked us off of 2/3 of the United States. Said we all have to move to a spots west of Colorado as the force majeure was going to repopulate indigenous Americans from wherever they may now be found: NA, SA, CA, Europe, wherever and create a nation for them on their ancestral homelands..... would you accept a two state solution of the western seaboard? How many Jews were in the area at the turn of the 20th century again?

Then what other option is there than to fight it out? The only thing odd about now is that we seem more averse to allowing them to do that than previous generations. It's not like they haven't been fighting for 7000+ years.

ETA: 20% of the population in Israel is Arabic. The Anglo Saxons and the Norse eventually found a way to get along without perpetually seeking revenge for past injustices.

[¥akaSteelhead]

Around 10% of Palestine was Jewish in the 1920s preceding the Zionism.

[Gadianton]

Then what other option is there than to fight it out? The only thing odd about now is that we seem more averse to allowing them to do that than previous generations.

You know about Israel's iron dome, right? For each 3,000$ Hamas rocket fired into Israel's territory, two Israeli rockets are fired to intercept -- the second is "just in case", at a cost of 50,000$ per rocket. Every rocket is paid for by America.

So why don't we "allow them to do that"? You and er, many of your Christian nationalist brothers and sisters crow the loudest about not wanting to allow them to settle it on their own.

[Res Ipsa]

What’s in Gaza doesn’t stay in Gaza.

[ajax18]

Then what other option is there than to fight it out? The only thing odd about now is that we seem more averse to allowing them to do that than previous generations.

You know about Israel's iron dome, right? For each 3,000$ Hamas rocket fired into Israel's territory, two Israeli rockets are fired to intercept -- the second is "just in case", at a cost of 50,000$ per rocket. Every rocket is paid for by America.

So why don't we "allow them to do that"? You and er, many of your Christian nationalist brothers and sisters crow the loudest about not wanting to allow them to settle it on their own.

Give us a two state solution in America and you won't have to hear from me ever again.

[Morley]

[Cue an Ajax18 reply about the injustices suffered by the Confederacy both during and after the American Civil War.]

I was close:

Give us a two state solution in America and you won't have to hear from me ever again.

[Vēritās]

Ajax wouldn't be able to survive in a two state solution in America. His state of Gilead would no longer be subsidized by the predominant Liberal states that produce most of the GDP.

[Kishkumen]

The Palestinians have been offered a two state solution many times. They're not interested. When they tell you that they want nothing less than to exterminate every Jew from the river to the sea because the Koran dictates it, you need to believe them whether it's something you would view as moral and rational or even in their own best interests or not. They don't think like you do. They don't believe the same things you do and you're not going to change that. Nation building by the US in the Middle East has been a colossal waste of money and a failure. Just let Israel and Palestine fight it out and try to keep it from turning into a global world war.

You don't speak for all Palestinians, Ajax.