FAIR, McCue, and the Law

[_Pokatator]

I'm sorry you are feeling so defensive. I can see I really hit a nerve. I think for your mental health I will refrain from posting any more in this thread. But if you care to engage in substantiative discussion on another thread I will post back to you there.

Wow, Charity you are such a humanitarian. You are leaving this thread because you have lied and everyone knows it.

[_charity]

I'm sorry you are feeling so defensive. I can see I really hit a nerve. I think for your mental health I will refrain from posting any more in this thread. But if you care to engage in substantiative discussion on another thread I will post back to you there.

Wow, Charity you are such a humanitarian. You are leaving this thread because you have lied and everyone knows it.

Pokatator, just for you. I don't consider posting that MA&D doesn't have a thread, when there is no active thread going on to be a lie. They obviously DO NOT have a thread going on. Evidently in the minds of some here, if someone, somewhere, at sometime ever did something, that means that right now, right here, everybody is doing it. I don't see it that way. To my mind, when a thread is locked, it is gone. You can't post on it, what good is it?

But I have said what needs to be said on this thread, that the people who are guilty of spreading rumors, stories, etc. about Bob McCue are his friends on all the anti boards. And that sure doesn't go down well, now does it?

[_Pokatator]

Charity you are just so full of yourself.

[_KimberlyAnn]

I don't consider posting that MA&D doesn't have a thread, when there is no active thread going on to be a lie. They obviously DO NOT have a thread going on. Evidently in the minds of some here, if someone, somewhere, at sometime ever did something, that means that right now, right here, everybody is doing it. I don't see it that way. To my mind, when a thread is locked, it is gone. You can't post on it, what good is it?

The fact that the thread is locked has no bearing on the statement you made, which was:

There is nothing about this on the MA&D board.

There quite obviously IS something about it on the MADB board. There is a thread that was arbitrarily and unfairly locked! It exists. You were linked to it.

You said there was NOTHING about it on MADB. That is a lie. And your inability to admit your wrongfulness is astounding.

Everyone here can see how ridiculous you are.

KA

[_Ray A]

I think RFM and MADB have both done the right thing here.

The only argument I have against "free speech", is that it gives every mug an opportunity vent his/her spleen at the expense of others. The Nazis arose in an atmosphere of "free speech". Tell me whether you think "free speech" should be allowed after reading this: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthr ... 772p4.html

Tell me whether you understand how THIS is remnants of Nazi Germany?

I think some of you are very naïve about the way the world is going. And I think few of you understand how your constant MOCKERY of Mormonism will affect others.

[_the road to hana]

I think RFM and MADB have both done the right thing here.

I wouldn't lump them together; their reasons for not letting threads continue are quite different.

FAIR doesn't like to have threads on anything that has legal ramifications. Period. But Bob McCue was the one to post the thread over there in the first place.

The thread on MADB was not posted by Bob McCue, and was only closed because despite their claims to the contrary, they still have very close ties to FAIR.

Make no mistake; MADB didn't close the thread to protect Bob McCue. They did it to cover their own precarious butts.

[_harmony]

I don't consider posting that MA&D doesn't have a thread, when there is no active thread going on to be a lie. They obviously DO NOT have a thread going on. Evidently in the minds of some here, if someone, somewhere, at sometime ever did something, that means that right now, right here, everybody is doing it. I don't see it that way. To my mind, when a thread is locked, it is gone. You can't post on it, what good is it?

The fact that the thread is locked has no bearing on the statement you made, which was:

There is nothing about this on the MA&D board.

There quite obviously IS something about it on the MADB board. There is a thread that was arbitrarily and unfairly locked! It exists. You were linked to it.

You said there was NOTHING about it on MADB. That is a lie. And your inability to admit your wrongfulness is astounding.

Everyone here can see how ridiculous you are.

KA

*sigh* (I seem to be doing that alot lately).

Charity was wrong. That's evident. I'm not sure you can prove she lied. There's a difference between being wrong and lying.

[_Ray A]

Yea, we are going back to Germany in the name of "free speech":

Freedom of Speech



This Internet site covers many topics that can be termed as "controversial". In particular, we could mention immigration, multiculturalism, and Asianisation.

Why controversial? Well, for historical reasons (concerning ideology, academia, trade, and politics), the current power-elite of Australia (the Establishment) is dominated by cosmopolitan-internationalists - and, generally, these people do not like to have their views challenged. The most important and most influential section of the Establishment, the media, is trying its best to portray democratic criticism of immigration, multiculturalism, and Asianisation as unacceptable.

However, the fact is that the majority of the Australian people oppose the anti-Australian policies of continuous mass immigration, government-funded multiculturalism, and Asianisation.

Also, parliamentarians such as Pauline Hanson and Graeme Campbell have publicly opposed the continuation of these anti-Australian policies.

But even if it were only a minority of Australians who opposed these anti-Australian policies, the point would be the same:
In a democracy such as ours it is vitally necessary to allow public opposition to any policy that the Government, and the Establishment, may be peddling. This is part of the essence of democracy in Australia.

People who talk of "freedom of speech", but then move to restrict access to public mediums of expressing that freedom of speech are absolute hypocrites.

To put restrictions upon advocating views in public (whether it be via speaking on top of soap boxes; handing out leaflets; publishing pamphlets, magazines, newspapers, etc.; or putting information on the Internet) is to restrict freedom of speech. Having "freedom of speech" but being stopped from speaking your views via normal public means is - in reality - not to have freedom of speech at all.

In Australia today, various multiculturalists are making moves to restrict or ban the freedom of speech of those who would oppose their world-view. For this reason, such rabid multiculturalists are now being called "the New Nazis". These quasi-fascists, and their anti-democratic machinations, must be opposed.



Support democracy!



Support freedom of speech!

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~natinfo/freedom.htm

Now, in case any here don't read this right, here is the clincher:

In Australia today, various multiculturalists are making moves to restrict or ban the freedom of speech of those who would oppose their world-view. For this reason, such rabid multiculturalists are now being called "the New Nazis". These quasi-fascists, and their anti-democratic machinations, must be opposed.

Hitler has rights too. Obviously!

Do you want me to put it even more clearly? "Darkies" are NOT welcome in Australia, according to the reborn Nazis.

How does this relate to the thread, and Mormonism? Many of you are demonising Mormonism far beyond what it deserves! You are painting a distorted picture, and inflaming non-Mormons, and the blatantly IGNORANT!

Australian nationalists ARE the New Nazis!!!

[_Ray A]

So, Scratch and others think my analogies to a "holocaust" is a "joke"?

Keep attacking Mormons. No harm done, only "entertainment"?

"Free speech." Whch conquers all. And it's all here on this board.

[_KimberlyAnn]

I don't consider posting that MA&D doesn't have a thread, when there is no active thread going on to be a lie. They obviously DO NOT have a thread going on. Evidently in the minds of some here, if someone, somewhere, at sometime ever did something, that means that right now, right here, everybody is doing it. I don't see it that way. To my mind, when a thread is locked, it is gone. You can't post on it, what good is it?

The fact that the thread is locked has no bearing on the statement you made, which was:

There is nothing about this on the MA&D board.

There quite obviously IS something about it on the MADB board. There is a thread that was arbitrarily and unfairly locked! It exists. You were linked to it.

You said there was NOTHING about it on MADB. That is a lie. And your inability to admit your wrongfulness is astounding.

Everyone here can see how ridiculous you are.

KA

*sigh* (I seem to be doing that alot lately).

Charity was wrong. That's evident. I'm not sure you can prove she lied. There's a difference between being wrong and lying.

Harmony, Charity's insistence on defending her erroneous statement, even if it were made unknowingly, is in itself a form of lying. The truth is obvious, yet she is determined not to recognize it, lying to both herself and others.

Her initial statement was a lie, of which I believe she was and is well aware, by her own admission of knowing there was a closed thread on MA&D. She knew there was indeed something there about the article, yet she said there was "nothing". How is that not a lie?

KA