Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Pawn Trevor:

I find [MODERATOR NOTE: Behind-the-scenes information deleted] very troubling and deeply disturbing. Be careful, lest you endanger your check from the SCMC. Or worse. We have ways, you know. And you won't find them pleasant.

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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Daniel Peterson wrote:...
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Goooooooooorgeous !

I'm sorry for the poor readers without some european background ...
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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Daniel Peterson wrote:Abteilungsführer, Kirchenmitgliedverstärkungskommittee, Hauptquartier Salzseestadt Zentral


I don't know about you all, but I think the original German is just so much more appealing than 'SCMC.'

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Shades, that is very thorough of you. I had no idea that you would not only edit out Scratch's threat against me, but also my quotation of my own PM to him. If you don't watch it, you'll be fielding an offer from the Kirchenmitgliedverstärkungskommittee.
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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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wenglund wrote: With all due respect, you have made the rookie mistake of failing to consider the most critical component of the faith equation--i.e. the intent and purpose of the restored gospel of Christ. Had you considered it, and accurtely understood what the intent and purpose is, then you may have grasped that the restored gospel of Christ is a VEHICLE (like the car in my analogy) that is designed to take us to a given destination--i.e salvation and exaltation in Christ wherein we become like him in fulness of joy and love. (see the three-fold mission of the Church)

There's no mistake. I have considered the true "intent and purpose of the restored gospel of Christ" at great length, and it's rather obvious that it's about money and control. An objective observer can easily see that, whereas someone swimming in the deep end of Mormon silliness has to think it has something to do with becoming like Jesus.

The problem is that Jesus is a myth. You trying to tell me I've failed to understand the "intent and purpose of the restored gospel of Christ" is like me claiming you've failed to understand the intent and purpose of The Force™.

I agree about one thing; it's a vehicle alright. But it's a vehicle that makes a few old guys in Utah a lot of money.

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It teaches that families can only be together in the afterlife if all members are righteous, which causes unfounded grief and unnecessary burdens on parents with “wayward” children, not to mention the guilt and increased difficulty in expressing honest points of view on the part of children. In other words, while the church claims to be a “family first” organization, what they teach effectively breaks families apart. And what’s worse is that often, when you bring this up with a believer, they’ll blame the family itself rather than acknowledging the church’s culpability in the situation. Recovery for Mormonism? You better believe it.


I appreciate you sharing this with us. And, while I hear what you are saying, I think you, and others who may view the Church in this same way, are more than a little confused, and have a flawed perception of what is meant by "family first" or "family oriented" Church, and an incorrect grasp of what the intent and purpose of the Church really is.

So what you're really saying (based on this and the quotes I snipped) is that while the church claims to be a family first oganization, what it really means is that it's a believing, obeying, tithe-paying Mormon family first organization. In other words, it's a religion first organization disguised as a family first organization.

Yep, I agree.
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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Trevor wrote:Shades, that is very thorough of you. I had no idea that you would not only edit out Scratch's threat against me, but also my quotation of my own PM to him.

Now you know.

From Rule #3 of the Universal Rules:

"Do not make mention of anything that allegedly transpired or is transpiring via the chat room or via private message. People who communicate behind-the-scenes obviously intend their communications to remain behind-the-scenes. Any post on the board itself making reference to such things will be deleted."

Although the second sentence may not have applied in this case, the first and third sentences did.
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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Trevor wrote:By the way, since I reject your sad attempt to control me, here is the PM I sent you:

Trevor wrote:[MODERATOR NOTE: Behind-the-scenes information (the text of a PM) deleted]

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His own message that he sent and that he posted was censored?
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one moment, of the well of life to taste-
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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:His own message that he sent and that he posted was censored?


Yeah, I thought that was interesting too, but, on the other hand, it is nice not to have to face my inconsistent behavior every time I open this thread. One moment Trevor is sharing yuks with Scratch over Scratch's crusade; the next moment Trevor is decrying Scratch's crusade. This is just one of the reasons my credibility around here has shrunk to something below zero by now. Oh well. I still think I was right about critics' failure to understand apologists on some level. In fact, right now some of the rhetoric around here is getting difficult to read. Maybe by tomorrow I will be back to my old self.
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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:His own message that he sent and that he posted was censored?


Yes according to Rule #3 apparently.

a.k.a.: the gotta shutup Moniker ruling
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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Trevor wrote: One moment Trevor is sharing yuks with Scratch over Scratch's crusade; the next moment Trevor is decrying Scratch's crusade. This is just one of the reasons my credibility around here has shrunk to something below zero by now.


Don't lose any sleep over it. See my sig. line. It's true, but it doesn't bother me.

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. - Raplh Waldo Emerson.


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Re: Toward a Theory of Mopologetics

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Ray A wrote:Don't lose any sleep over it. See my sig. line. It's true, but it doesn't bother me.


I am in very good company, then. Thanks for reminding me that I am not alone here. You are a real gent. And even when we are not vacillating in sync, I will not vacillate on my positive assessment of you.
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